Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.
Although I agree, I think she was successful in the aim of making Trump look unpalatable to several more groups. I fear that she will succeed in winning the presidency, do to a combination of handouts and flattering emotional people with a pretty painting that she tricks voters into hoping she can produce but cannot.
Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.
Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.
� Hardest possible disagree. I'd rather listen to her than the word salad that � falls out of Trump's mouth.
Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.
Although I agree, I think she was successful in the aim of making Trump look unpalatable to several more groups. I fear that she will succeed in winning th
presidency, do to a combination of handouts and flattering emotional people with a pretty painting that she tricks voters into hoping she can produce but cannot.
Hardest possible disagree. I'd rather listen to her than the word salad that falls out of Trump's mouth.
Neither one of them did a good job, at all, of answering questions they
were asked. She flat out dodged at least three, and he kept steering the conversation to illegal immigrants.
All they both did was spend most of the night attacking the other vs. actually telling us much of anything about what they themselves might do.
It was a very disappointing showing.
Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.
Re: Trump Harris debate
By: halian to Denn on Wed Sep 11 2024 10:43 pm
Listening to Kamala is worse than fingernails on a chalkboard.
� Hardest possible disagree. I'd rather listen to her than the word sal that � falls out of Trump's mouth.
Lol, you're deflecting.
Kamala is famous for her word salads.
Harris on diplomacy: "We will assist Jamaica in COVID recovery by assisting terms of the recovery efforts in Jamaica"
"I think that, to be very honest with you, I do believe that we should have rightly believed, but we certainly believe that certain issues are just settled. Certain issues are just settled."
You need to be able to go where you need to go if you want to go there and d the work you are supposed to do when you arrive.
Save the moment that relates to the past and remember it in the future. That how you're able to contextualize the present.
The significance of the passage of time is much more significant than what w would like to think. It's, in fact, a significant significance. One that signifies a lot, whether you consider it or you don't.
Every day, it's time for us to agree that time is passing faster than we thought yesterday. We need to look at the time now because if we do it later it won't be the same time.
When you look at a coconut tree, you realize it's contextual. There's no coconut tree without your previously lived experience that came before, and can't be certain that the coconut tree will be there in the future, unless y too, are there, with it, in consequential mindfulness.
There are things we know, and there are things we don't know yet. Based on w we have seen, we know.
... Talk is cheap -- supply exceeds demand!
Lol, you're deflecting.
Kamala is famous for her word salads.
Trump actually did a good job tying Kamala to the Biden policies and Gas prices and high inflation.
He did spend to much time on her total lies. It was 3 vs 1, he should never agree to a debate with bias media organization. The only reason they were pretty fair on the Trump Biden debate is because those moderators were in on the Biden takedown.
Re: Trump Harris debate
By: Denn to halian on Thu Sep 12 2024 08:26 am
"In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"
I know that's not word quite word-salad, but it is pure derangement.
Biden did the right thing by dropping out. Trump should do the same thing, he's mentally unfit for the job.
Just look at how riled up he got when Harris said his rallies were small, and that people were bored. He couldn't hold back.
"Just think of it. We would be in World War Two very quickly if we're going to be relying on this man, and far more devastating than any war."
(Another Trump quote from the same speech a year ago where he forogot he would be running against Biden, and suggested that his opponent was Obama. )
social media is full of people laughing at his word salad rambling. It's been an ongoing joke for the last 8+ years, and it's only gotten worse.
Re: Trump Harris debate
By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Thu Sep 12 2024 01:04 pm
HOW DARE the moderators fact check!
High gas prices and high inflation were a direct result of Covid.
That said, I just filled up yesterday for $2.72 a gallon. seems pretty good to me.
...DOS never says EXCELLENT command or filename...
� Kamala is famous for her word salads. ������������������������������������������������������������ [quote from Denn] � ...And Trump isn't? See below for an example, from his talk with the � Economic Club of New York last Thursday: ��������������������������� ������������������������������������������������� � President Trump, you - you talked about how the increase in the price of � food, gas and rent is
Oh wait, they failed to fact check Kamala, independat fact checkers did that, and also found Trump was more truthful.
I wanted to hear more about who Kamala is and what she believes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. Neither her or the media are interested in being revelatory. Everyone who votes for her will just have to hope for good things. I'm not that trusting.
Oh wait, they failed to fact check Kamala, independat fact checkers
did that, and also found Trump was more truthful.
He usually is... and it seems funny that when Trump says something that the mainstream media idiots laugh at, he usually ends up being right in the long run.
� Kamala is famous for her word salads. ������������ ���������������������������
����������������������� [quote
from Denn]
It was 3 vs 1, he should never agree to a debate with bias media organization.
The only reason they were pretty fair on the Trump Biden debate is because those moderators were in on the Biden takedown.
I wanted to hear more about who Kamala is and what she believes, but that doesn't seem to be in the cards. Neither her or the media are interested in being revelatory. Everyone who votes for her will just have to hope for good things. I'm not that trusting.
At least with Trump, I know what I am getting. A guy that the entire US government and political machine feels threatened by and wants to eliminate (assassinate) from running for any public office. He did what he could in the four years he was President and I am happy to give him four more years to work
on it some more. I hope he can do a bit of swamp-draining before his enemies can find a better sharp-shooter, if he can overcome the various mechanisms and
agencies twisted against him and win the electoral college.
I don't know her politics outside of prosecuting cases brought to her - she wa
only a senator for less than one term and a very small and totally un-publicized voting record before she tried for the presidency and failed int
the vice-presidency. We don't know what she stands for (she didn't have much time to stand for much of anything.) and she is not going to make statements about such things at this juncture. She may well have prosecuted illegals in California but she had no interest in dealing with them in Washington, so I don't really know how she "feels" about immigration (the one thing she did as AG that seemed interesting to let her play with as VP). She just supported Joe
Biden as VP and then (loyally?) stepped over his failing (now vanished?) body to become an unchallenged presidential nominee.
Doesn't inspire my vote at all. I can't see how it could inspire anyone's vote, but there are apparently half of Americans who hate Donald Trump so much
they would vote for ANYONE else.
I suppose most Dems are willing to let the unknown quantity loose. I will laug
if she sells you down the river and enslaves you to your government "mommies" for "your own good". Suckle while you can.
� All they both did was spend most of the night attacking the other vs.
� actually telling us much of anything about what they themselves might do.
� It was a very disappointing showing. ���������������������������������������������������� [quote from Dumas Walker]
� Unfortunately, unless the organizers and moderators do something to rein
� candidates in, I think the age of the debate, at least as we've known it,
� is on the way out.
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"
The program you're using to respond to messages generates replies that get formatted in a messy way when quoted..
IMHO, the moderators of the first debate did a much better job, but maybe that was because Trump (the only participant in both) seemed on better behavior at the first one.
Yep, and there are local sources there in Ohio for the story.
"In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"
HOW DARE the moderators fact check!
He usually is... and it seems funny that when Trump says something that the mainstream media idiots laugh at, he usually ends up being right in the long run.
why do you want to hear more. she's been the vp for 4 years.
it's not like she's a newcomer.
KnightMare wrote to DaiTengu <=-
Re: Trump Harris debate
By: DaiTengu to Denn on Thu Sep 12 2024 05:02 pm
"In Springfield, they're eating the dogs. The people that came in they're eating the cats, they're eating, they're eating the pets of the people that live there"
Do you live in Ohio? Do you live in Clark County, OH? Do you live in Springfield OH?
I live 40 miles away from there. I've been there and it looks like a SHITHOLE. There arecrs flipped over, the pond there is EMPTY. It was
quite the ecosystem for Canadian geese.
Haitians are known to practice voodoo/witchcraft/black magic. They use
and sometimes DO EAT CATS, PIGEONS, and HENS. Live or dead, they eat
them and scarifice them.
So unless you or anyone else has been there... STFU.
Nothing like a hypocrite, eh? FOAD.
HOW DARE the moderators fact check!
Moderators have one job - ASK A QUESTION and SHUT THE FUCK UP.
We don't do "fact checks", no one asked for your OPINION on ANYTHING.
WAKE THE EFF UP.
So says the wanker who just posted to me in another echo, asking me who died and left me the boss.
Nothing like a hypocrite, eh? FOAD.
KnightMare wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Trump Harris debate
By: Gamgee to KnightMare on Sat Sep 14 2024 09:14 pm
Nothing like a hypocrite, eh? FOAD.
Obviously you can't read either, you asshole.
I said STFU not "disappear".
I think the big story here is actually how Joe and Kamala sent 300k Haitians t
different parts of the USA.
20k of them went to Springfield, Ohio and the residents are angry, frustrated and they want out.
I said STFU not "disappear". Now crawl back into your UK Dictionary.
No, their one job is to moderate the debate. Fact checking is part of debate moderation.
Opinion is not a factor in fact checking.
Your previous point was saying I was being an asshole to somebody. Just exactly what you then did. "STFU" is not exactly a kind thing to say.
In this instance, I am not sure if Joe and Kamala sent them. It sounds like the mayor is convinced that some companies are behind it that are receiving FEMA money for relocating them. Now, did Kamala brag about getting Temporary Protective Status for these Haitian immigrants? Yes. Is FEMA handing out the money as a part of their administration? Yes.
All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
I love my country, but I hate my current goverment. At least Trump
gave a shit.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
I said STFU not "disappear". Now crawl back into your UK Dictionary.
I didn't know you relocated to the UK??? :D
* SLMR 2.1a * He's dead Jim. Grab his tricorder. I'll get his wallet.
KnightMare wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: Trump Harris debate
By: Gamgee to KnightMare on Sun Sep 15 2024 07:49 am
Your previous point was saying I was being an asshole to somebody. Just exactly what you then did. "STFU" is not exactly a kind thing to say.
I defended someone that was being attacked IMHO wrongly.
Would you let someone get verbally abused and NOT try to defend them? Didnt think so.
Let's just end this diatribe here. You got a beef w/ someone, then
take it private. Else, someone is going to see what they see and
act on it.
There I end my stpry. Take that as an apology if you want.
I stand by my convictions.
KnightMare wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Re: Trump Harris debate
By: Dumas Walker to DENN on Sun Sep 15 2024 09:14 am
In this instance, I am not sure if Joe and Kamala sent them. It sounds like the mayor is convinced that some companies are behind it that are receiving FEMA money for relocating them. Now, did Kamala brag about getting Temporary Protective Status for these Haitian immigrants? Yes. Is FEMA handing out the money as a part of their administration? Yes.
All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
I love my country, but I hate my current goverment. At least Trump
gave a shit.
I've been told that a lot of homeowners are being asked to sell their homes for an absurd amount of money to move these illegals in to them.
Tell me again, how Biden-Harris good for us?
All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
they do have programs and housing for homeless vets.
when i lived in milwaukee there were several places.
they also had a dorm where you could live if you were low income.
they do have programs and housing for homeless vets.
when i lived in milwaukee there were several places.
they also had a dorm where you could live if you were low income.
In some places, vets and old people are (supposedly!) being kicked out in favor of illegal immigrants because the owners of the facilities can get more money from the government for taking in immigrants vs. assisting the other groups.
Re: Trump Harris debate
By: Denn to Dumas Walker on Sat Sep 14 2024 10:37 pm
Tell me again, how Biden-Harris good for us?
She STILL has not closed the border.
High gas prices and high inflation were a direct result of Covid.
She has no intention of closing the border... or of doing anything else she promises.
but really, we shouldn't be supporting anybody forever, unless they were wounded in service.
I think Trump was pretty successful making her own this economy.The problem is gasoline being inflated since Putin invaded Ukraine, the
Gas prices went up another 10 cents today in my area.
The economy mattyers most Ithink.
If she is installed in office I will dread listening to her for the next fourA divided government helps keep sanity. Im hoping for a Republican
years, let alone the harm she will do to this country.
� There *really* needs to be a maximum age to run for office. I'd set it toI would require a rule of Age 80. You can not run for president if your
� the federal retirement age.
In this instance, I am not sure if Joe and Kamala sent them. It sound like the mayor is convinced that some companies are behind it that ar receiving FEMA money for relocating them. Now, did Kamala brag about getting Temporary Protective Status for these Haitian immigrants? Yes FEMA handing out the money as a part of their administration? Yes.
All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
I love my country, but I hate my current goverment. At least Trump
gave a shit.
they do have programs and housing for homeless vets.
when i lived in milwaukee there were several places.
they also had a dorm where you could live if you were low income.
In some places, vets and old people are (supposedly!) being kicked out in favor of illegal immigrants because the owners of the facilities can get more money from the government for taking in immigrants vs. assisting the other groups.
� There *really* needs to be a maximum age to run for office. I'd setI would require a rule of Age 80. You can not run for president if your
� the federal retirement age.
4 years will make you 80 years old. So if you are 74 you can run for 1 term, but not 2.
In this instance, I am not sure if Joe and Kamala sent them. It DW>> sound like the mayor is convinced that some companies are behind
All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
I love my country, but I hate my current goverment. At least Trump
gave a shit.
Trump called U.S. Marines who died at Belleau Wood "suckers" and U.S. soldiers buried at Aisne-Marne American Cemetery "losers" in a speech during a visit to France in 2018. Doesn't really sound like someone who gives a shit to me.
they do have programs and housing for homeless vets.
when i lived in milwaukee there were several places.
they also had a dorm where you could live if you were low income.
In some places, vets and old people are (supposedly!) being kicked
out in favor of illegal immigrants because the owners of the
facilities can get more money from the government for taking in
immigrants vs. assisting the other groups.
"Supposedly" is pulling a lot of weight there. Citation needed.
halian wrote to KnightMare <=-
In this instance, I am not sure if Joe and Kamala sent them. It sound like the mayor is convinced that some companies are behind it that ar receiving FEMA money for relocating them. Now, did Kamala brag about getting Temporary Protective Status for these Haitian immigrants? Yes FEMA handing out the money as a part of their administration? Yes.
All this money for these people and not ONE DIME for homeless Vets.
I love my country, but I hate my current goverment. At least Trump
gave a shit.
Trump called U.S. Marines who died at Belleau Wood "suckers" and U.S. soldiers buried at Aisne-Marne American Cemetery "losers" in a speech during a visit to France in 2018. Doesn't really sound like someone who gives a shit to me.
"Supposedly" is pulling a lot of weight there. Citation needed.
What? you don't have Google?
Citation needed is a way of saying "I'm to lazy to look it up, you do the work for me".
"Supposedly" is pulling a lot of weight there. Citation needed.
What? you don't have Google?
Citation needed is a way of saying "I'm to lazy to look it up, you
do the work for me".
That argument also sounds like a way of saying "I'm too lazy to provide a link to back up what I'm saying; you look it up."
In some places, vets and old people are (supposedly!) being kicked out in favor of illegal immigrants because the owners of the facilities can get more money from the government for taking in immigrants vs. assisting the other groups.
"Supposedly" is pulling a lot of weight there. Citation needed.
Trump called U.S. Marines who died at Belleau Wood "suckers" and U.S. soldiers >buried at Aisne-Marne American Cemetery "losers" in a speech during a visit to >France in 2018. Doesn't really sound like someone who gives a shit to me.
Dumas Walker wrote to HALIAN <=-
Trump called U.S. Marines who died at Belleau Wood "suckers" and U.S. soldiers
buried at Aisne-Marne American Cemetery "losers" in a speech during a visit to
France in 2018. Doesn't really sound like someone who gives a shit to me.
Since you asked me for citations on this thread, here is a citation
that you might want to check out.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/04/donald-trump-call-troops-suckers- losers/
"In sum, the claim stemmed from a story by The Atlantic, which relied
on anonymous, second-hand reports of Trump's alleged words; there was
no independent footage or documented proof to substantiate the
in-question comments; and Trump vehemently denies that he once called service members 'losers' and 'suckers.' While it was certainly possible that he said those things, Snopes was unable to independently verify
the claim.
So, in short, you are basing your claims on a story that relied on anonymous, second-hand reports and no documented proof.
Trump called U.S. Marines who died at Belleau Wood "suckers" and U.S. sol >buried at Aisne-Marne American Cemetery "losers" in a speech during a vis >France in 2018. Doesn't really sound like someone who gives a shit to me.
Since you asked me for citations on this thread, here is a citation that you might want to check out.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/10/04/donald-trump-call-troops-suckers-lo
because they are false.
What? you don't have Google?
Citation needed is a way of saying "I'm to lazy to look it up, you do the for me".
When you cherry-pick some comments/actions/inactions, you can say that about any politician you want to. It's all a matter of context, and which "side" you're on. Let me know if you need a list of gaffs/slights produced by the current administration on this subject.
liberal
koolaid-slurpers
It's a joke - they don't want to speak the truth... they just don't want T over any reality.
because they are false.
[citation needed]
What? you don't have Google?
Citation needed is a way of saying "I'm to lazy to look it up, you
do the for me".
You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.
Trump called U.S. Marines who died at Belleau Wood "suckers" and U.S. soldiers buried at Aisne-Marne American Cemetery "losers" in a speech during a visit to France in 2018. Doesn't really sound like someone who
Citation needed is a way of saying "I'm to lazy to look it up, you do the work for me".
Re: Trump Harris debate
By: Denn to halian on Sun Sep 29 2024 08:22 am
No - it means you made the claim, now back it up.
Don't talk about something you have no proof of. i'm not doing your
dirty work.
It's you (the claimnant) who is lazy.
Yhe onus is on you.
Re: Trump Harris debateNo need for citation anyway, Dumas Walker and paulie420 already provided sources.
By: Denn to halian on Sun Sep 29 2024 08:22 am
No - it means you made the claim, now back it up.
Don't talk about something you have no proof of. i'm not doing your
dirty work.
It's you (the claimnant) who is lazy.
Yhe onus is on you.
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It's a joke - they don't want to speak the truth... they just don't
want T over any reality.
Trump is a reality fundamentally incompatible with truth.
Trump called U.S. Marines who died at Belleau Wood "suckers" and U.S. sol >DW> >buried at Aisne-Marne American Cemetery "losers" in a speech during a vis >DW> >France in 2018. Doesn't really sound like someone who gives a shit to me.
Since you asked me for citations on this thread, here is a citation that you might want to check out.
Its so stupid that we're still talking about [ALL of these BS Trump misquotes]
this.
Not attacking you, Dumas
- but the other side would attack us, blast us on the
main media news for weeks at a time and make sure the world knew.
It's a joke - they don't want to speak the truth... they just don't want Trump >over any reality.
It's a joke - they don't want to speak the truth... they just don't w over any reality.
Trump is a reality fundamentally incompatible with truth.
Trump is not always perfect in what he says for sure but it would be nice if the press didn't misquote, or fail to fully quote, our Presidents and Presidential candidates. Let us hear/read all they said and then let us decide if we like it or not. Instead the press try to lead us to a decision they want.
Some of the same things are happening with Harris. The other day FOX
News posted something to YT that was about another "Harris word salad." It was pretty obviously heavily edited and, despite that (and despite
the fact that I didn't agree with her!), her words were not nonsense as FOX News would want us to believe.
There are sure some members of the press, and a lot of voters, who aren't so much leaning towards Harris (and Biden before her) as they are away from Trump.
We don't have a Walter Cronkite (The most
trusted man in America) anymore; a 'politcally neutral reporter'.. until 1968 when he made his views on the Vietnam War known, he was a stallward in reporting... - nor do we have a Howard K. Smith, David Brinkley or even Eric Sevareid. Only until their latter years did these reporters show their affiliations - these are reporters that we would all benefit from today in 2024; but it won't happen.
There are sure some members of the press, and a lot of voters, who aren't
so much leaning towards Harris (and Biden before her) as they are away from Trump.
I hope we all vote, Dumas - I'm certainly going to.
(I'm in Oregon - so.. please, YOU VOTE. :P)
What? you don't have Google?
Citation needed is a way of saying "I'm to lazy to look it up, you do the
for me".
You made the claim, so the burden of proof is on you.
That argument also sounds like a way of saying "I'm too lazy to provide a link to back up what I'm saying; you look it up."
Nightfox
That argument also sounds like a way of saying "I'm too lazy to provide a
link to back up what I'm saying; you look it up."
That is because I have discovered reposting the same information once and again and again becomes tedious after a while.
I am not talking
specifically about this discussion, but geeze, there are some subjects that are both common knowledge and docummented, and when you bring them up somebody asks for a source.
I'm not talking about things that are common knowlege. I've often seen people post things regarding information that isn't well known, and then offer nothing to back it up, which is why people ask for a source.
Or, alternately, people mention something as an argument to something else, but the information seems dubious, yet they don't provide a source.
That is because I have discovered reposting the same information once and agai[...]
and again becomes tedious after a while. I am not talking specifically about this discussion, but geeze, there are some subjects that are both common knowledge and docummented, and when you bring them up somebody asks for a source.
A week later a different person does the same thing regarding the same topic. Multiply it three more times and then it becomes obvious asking for certain sources of information is a dishonest practice and nobody should be playing ball.
Myself, I think that's far too old. (For context, I thought there was one federal retirement age, but no, the federal employee benefit plan makes it much more complicated than that. The oldest immediate retirement age under that plan is 62 with five years of service.)
When you cherry-pick some comments/actions/inactions, you can say that about any politician you want to. It's all a matter of context, andmany of these accusations are cherry picked to defame trump such as the
which "side" you're on. Let me know if you need a list of gaffs/slights produced by the current administration on this subject.
Matthew Munson wrote to GAMGEE <=-
When you cherry-pick some comments/actions/inactions, you can say that about any politician you want to. It's all a matter of context, and
which "side" you're on. Let me know if you need a list of gaffs/slights produced by the current administration on this subject.
many of these accusations are cherry picked to defame trump such as the dead solider from texas where the sister of the one died said the
atlantic magazine writer lied big time.
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