• Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix

    From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to All on Thu Jan 7 08:18:14 2021
    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

    They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the backgrounds, the chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

    Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

    give it a look
    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 7 12:40:52 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

    I started to watch it a copule years ago but didn't continue. Maybe I should pick it up again and watch the rest.

    Nightfox

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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Nightfox on Thu Jan 7 22:30:59 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 07 2021 12:40 pm

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition,
    etc.

    I started to watch it a copule years ago but didn't continue. Maybe I should pick it up again and
    watch the rest.

    The first few episodes are rough. But it gets better -- a lot better. It really is a great series both in acting and story, but also all the fun easter eggs about retro technology and silicon valley back in the day. In Season 2 (I think) is all around BBS and pre-internet online.

    I was the same way. I watched the first 10 minutes where they bang in the closet or whatever and I said, this is dumb. But then I watched more and it goes into how they reverse engineered the first IBM PC BIOS to start making clones .... and it really takes off.


    Bob Roberts

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 7 22:10:00 2021
    Hello Zombie!

    ** On Thursday 07.01.21 - 08:18, Zombie Mambo wrote to All:

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

    I've watched most of it when someone in the echos mentioned it. I
    still have the last season to finish. Not sure when I will do
    that.


    They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the backgrounds, the chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

    I don't see the AJ resemblance, but the actress is well cast.
    All the characters start to grow on you as the series proceeds.


    Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

    They introduce a small bit of techonology talk, but most of it is
    about the relationships and how their decisions (or indecisions)
    lead to different consequences.

    I liked the references to the various tech (especially the
    frantic solution to recover data from the demagnetized discs),
    the way the engineers realize that they can "fold over" the pcb
    boards designs, the hardware talk about the latency in the games
    over dialup, etc.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 8 13:56:53 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

    Yup, watched it (all seasons), liked it a lot.

    They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the backgrounds, the chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

    Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

    Yup, a lot of it is BS, but surprisingly, a lot of it is accurate. And just hearing a reference to "PETSCII" on mainstream TV gave me a thrill!
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ZOMBIE MAMBO on Fri Jan 8 17:07:00 2021
    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

    I watched it when it was originally aired on AMC. I enjoyed it.

    Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my firs
    PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

    I enjoyed watching them try to come up with the next big thing, especially
    when the later seasons sort of got into the period where I first started
    out in the IT workforce (early 1990's).


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 8 21:57:00 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

    They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the backgrounds, th chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

    Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my fi PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart an his wife works at TI.

    give it a look
    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo
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    While the story is a derivative of Compaq's origins, there's several nods to other innovators and quite a few red herrings and other diversions. The following seasons cover different aspects of the industry.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Nightfox on Fri Jan 8 21:58:00 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 07 2021 12:40 pm

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

    I started to watch it a copule years ago but didn't continue. Maybe I shoul

    Nightfox

    It's worth the time getting abosrbed in the characters and their dysfunctional
    relationships.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Ogg on Fri Jan 8 22:03:00 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Ogg to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:10 pm

    Hello Zombie!

    ** On Thursday 07.01.21 - 08:18, Zombie Mambo wrote to All:

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition, etc.

    I've watched most of it when someone in the echos mentioned it. I
    still have the last season to finish. Not sure when I will do
    that.


    They mention the TI, Commodore, there's awesome stuff in the background the chick that writes the bios is the blonde version of Angelina Jolie from Hackers, etc.

    I don't see the AJ resemblance, but the actress is well cast.
    All the characters start to grow on you as the series proceeds.


    Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy heart and his wife works at TI.

    They introduce a small bit of techonology talk, but most of it is
    about the relationships and how their decisions (or indecisions)
    lead to different consequences.

    I liked the references to the various tech (especially the
    frantic solution to recover data from the demagnetized discs),
    the way the engineers realize that they can "fold over" the pcb
    boards designs, the hardware talk about the latency in the games
    over dialup, etc.


    The last season buttons it up well. Some of the characters realize what
    they were chasing all these years after all.

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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Bob Roberts on Fri Jan 8 22:23:17 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Bob Roberts to Nightfox on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:30 pm

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    think) is all around BBS and pre-internet online.

    I was the same way. I watched the first 10 minutes where they bang in the closet or whatever and I said, this is dumb. But then I watched more and it

    Who was banging in the closet? I remember the PC stuff but not "banging in the closet?" Maybe because I didn't feel she was that good looking and too skinny. ;-)

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Digital Man on Sat Jan 9 10:20:20 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Digital Man to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 08 2021 01:56 pm

    Yup, a lot of it is BS, but surprisingly, a lot of it is accurate. And just hearing a reference to "PETSCII" on mainstream TV gave me a thrill!

    :) I'm a little surprised how much they get wrong in tech shows & movies. I guess it happens with any historical movie/show in general though.. I saw Pirates of Silicon Valley when it came out in 1999, and later I was reading about what facts they got wrong in that movie. And in that one, they totally left out the fact that Steve Jobs was hired to develop a game for Atari and had Steve Wozniak help him, and then lied to Steve Wozniak about how much he was paid so that he could give Steve Wozniak only a small amount of the pay. Later, the movie "Jobs" (with Ashton Kutcher) had that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Sat Jan 9 14:07:00 2021
    Who was banging in the closet? I remember the PC stuff but not "banging in the >closet?" Maybe because I didn't feel she was that good looking and too skinny.
    ;-)

    I think it was in the very first episode. The former IBM guy and the gamer girl.


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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to HusTler on Sat Jan 9 16:05:13 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: HusTler to Bob Roberts on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:23 pm

    I was the same way. I watched the first 10 minutes where they bang in
    the closet or whatever and I said, this is dumb. But then I watched
    more and it

    Who was banging in the closet? I remember the PC stuff but not "banging in the closet?" Maybe because I didn't feel she was that good looking and too skinny. ;-)

    The first 15 minutes of the first episode. When the two characters meet after the class or after the bar. I forget. It's been awhile.

    I like that actress, but I like Kerry Bishe (who plays Donna Clark) better. She's also very good in Narcos (a series from Netflix I highly recommend).

    Bob Roberts

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 9 07:18:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to ZOMBIE MAMBO <=-

    I enjoyed watching them try to come up with the next big thing,
    especially when the later seasons sort of got into the period where I first started out in the IT workforce (early 1990's).

    Same here, I was doing telecom and networking in the early to mid-90s, and season 4 reminded me of how new it all felt back then.

    Let's lobby Neflix for a miniseries season 5, after they've all gone their
    own ways and come back, like Tales of the City. Have Joe come up with a bitcoin play and get the band back together.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Sat Jan 9 07:18:00 2021
    Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-

    It's worth the time getting abosrbed in the characters and their dysfunctional relationships.

    And you do. I was surprised at how invested I was in their stories by the
    last few episodes of season 4. Spoilers...




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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Sat Jan 9 07:19:00 2021
    Moondog wrote to Ogg <=-

    The last season buttons it up well. Some of the characters realize
    what they were chasing all these years after all.

    The journey was the reward. Cheesy, but true.


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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dumas Walker on Sun Jan 10 08:11:39 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Sat Jan 09 2021 02:07 pm

    in the closet?" Maybe because I didn't feel she was that good looking
    and too skinny. ;-)

    I think it was in the very first episode. The former IBM guy and the gamer girl.

    Oh, I know the characters. I just don't remember the closet. ;-)

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Sun Jan 10 10:42:00 2021
    Let's lobby Neflix for a miniseries season 5, after they've all gone their own ways and come back, like Tales of the City. Have Joe come up with a bitcoin play and get the band back together.

    LOL that would be a logical next place for them to go.


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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to BOB ROBERTS on Sun Jan 10 12:45:00 2021
    I like that actress, but I like Kerry Bishe (who plays Donna Clark) better.

    Me also. :) Her character turned into a real b!tch as that show went on.


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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to all on Sun Jan 10 13:17:24 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Moondog to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 08 2021 09:57 pm


    Thanks Moondog, Dumas, Nightfox, digitalman for your comments, that solifies that I should continue watching!

    That is, if I can fit it in between Agua Donkeys and The IT Crowd...


    Thanks,
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to HUSTLER on Sun Jan 10 16:19:00 2021
    in the closet?" Maybe because I didn't feel she was that good looking and too skinny. ;-)

    I think it was in the very first episode. The former IBM guy and the gamer
    girl.

    Oh, I know the characters. I just don't remember the closet. ;-)

    It may have been in the basement or a store room. :)


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Nightfox on Sun Jan 10 23:14:39 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Jan 09 2021 10:20 am

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Digital Man to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 08 2021 01:56 pm

    Yup, a lot of it is BS, but surprisingly, a lot of it is accurate. And just hearing a reference to "PETSCII" on mainstream TV gave me a thrill!

    :) I'm a little surprised how much they get wrong in tech shows & movies.

    I guess I expect so little of Hollywood now, I'm impressed when they get *anything* technically correct in a movie or TV show! :-)

    It was kind of bizzare in HACF how they could get some obscure technical details pretty correct (*way* better than average) but then fail so badly on something as simple and as common as an HTTP URL. I think either they didn't always have technical consults reviewing the scripts or the dailies or they used different writers for different episodes maybe. That inconsistency in the accuracy was a bit weird.
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  • From HusTler@VERT/HAVENS to Dumas Walker on Mon Jan 11 07:39:34 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Sun Jan 10 2021 04:19 pm

    Oh, I know the characters. I just don't remember the closet. ;-)

    It may have been in the basement or a store room. :)

    I just happen to watch that episode last night. It was in the basement. I think I'm going to watch the entire series again it was so good. :-)

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to HusTler on Mon Jan 11 14:44:00 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: HusTler to Bob Roberts on Fri Jan 08 2021 10:23 pm

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Bob Roberts to Nightfox on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:30 pm

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    think) is all around BBS and pre-internet online.

    I was the same way. I watched the first 10 minutes where they bang in th closet or whatever and I said, this is dumb. But then I watched more and

    Who was banging in the closet? I remember the PC stuff but not "banging in

    At the beginning of the pilot episode, Joe McMillan was giving a speech to a group of college students about working for IBM, and
    Cameron was in the crowd. Later on they hooked up for a one night stand.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Digital Man on Mon Jan 11 14:58:00 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Jan 10 2021 11:14 pm

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Sat Jan 09 2021 10:20 am

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Digital Man to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 08 2021 01:56 pm

    Yup, a lot of it is BS, but surprisingly, a lot of it is accurate. A just hearing a reference to "PETSCII" on mainstream TV gave me a thrill!

    :) I'm a little surprised how much they get wrong in tech shows & movies.

    I guess I expect so little of Hollywood now, I'm impressed when they get *an

    It was kind of bizzare in HACF how they could get some obscure technical det lts reviewing the scripts or the dailies or they used different writers for --
    digital man

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    Mr Robot, they through enough technical stuff to look legit, but in other
    cases mades rookie mistakes in the physical security side to allow for social engineering to work. I used to work in IT at a nuclear power facility, and
    the security safeguards did not stop at the entrance. There was no such
    thing as an escorted guest wandering around unescorted. Even in the
    restroom.

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Thu Jan 14 00:17:00 2021
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Saturday 09.01.21 - 10:20, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man:

    they totally left out the fact that Steve Jobs was hired to
    develop a game for Atari and had Steve Wozniak help him, and
    then lied to Steve Wozniak about how much he was paid so
    that he could give Steve Wozniak only a small amount of the
    pay. Later, the movie "Jobs" (with Ashton Kutcher) had
    that.

    SW could probably figure out that SJ was going to keep the
    majority of the contract dollars and that SJ would never mention
    the true payout. SW was a true hardware geek and didn't care
    so much about the $'s if felt that he could help a friend.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Thu Jan 14 00:29:00 2021
    Hello Digital!

    ** On Sunday 10.01.21 - 23:14, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox:

    It was kind of bizzare in HACF how they could get some
    obscure technical details pretty correct (*way* better than
    average) but then fail so badly on something as simple and
    as common as an HTTP URL.

    When was the URL scene? I haven't seen the last season - is it
    there?




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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Thu Jan 14 08:22:01 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Ogg to Nightfox on Thu Jan 14 2021 12:17 am

    they totally left out the fact that Steve Jobs was hired to
    develop a game for Atari and had Steve Wozniak help him, and
    then lied to Steve Wozniak about how much he was paid so
    that he could give Steve Wozniak only a small amount of the
    pay. Later, the movie "Jobs" (with Ashton Kutcher) had
    that.

    SW could probably figure out that SJ was going to keep the
    majority of the contract dollars and that SJ would never mention
    the true payout. SW was a true hardware geek and didn't care
    so much about the $'s if felt that he could help a friend.

    I'm not quite sure that's the case. I read somewhere that when SW found out SJ lied about the actual payout, their friendship wasn't quite the same after that.

    Nightfox

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Ogg on Thu Jan 14 22:09:32 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Ogg to Digital Man on Thu Jan 14 2021 12:29 am

    Hello Digital!

    ** On Sunday 10.01.21 - 23:14, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox:

    It was kind of bizzare in HACF how they could get some
    obscure technical details pretty correct (*way* better than
    average) but then fail so badly on something as simple and
    as common as an HTTP URL.

    When was the URL scene? I haven't seen the last season - is it
    there?

    Yeah, when Joe is collecting web site addresses and gets one from some guy at a party, they totally botch it.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Nightfox on Fri Jan 15 05:02:44 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Nightfox to Ogg on Thu Jan 14 2021 08:22 am

    majority of the contract dollars and that SJ would never mention
    the true payout. SW was a true hardware geek and didn't care
    so much about the $'s if felt that he could help a friend.

    I'm not quite sure that's the case. I read somewhere that when SW found out SJ lied about the actual payout, their friendship wasn't quite the same after that.


    SJ was a prick that loved to walk all over people.
    but he wasnt always like that, he was a prankster and got along with people in the beginning. and like a lot of movies show, that changed overnight one day when steve jobs decided he was going to be a serious professional who is the head of a company.

    so they weren't close after that.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Jan 15 17:53:00 2021
    Yeah, when Joe is collecting web site addresses and gets one from some guy at a
    party, they totally botch it.

    I always figured since it was (1) at a party and (2) given verbally, it is likely whoever was giving it couldn't remember it correctly! Some of those urls in the day seemed longer than now... always a www.somewhere.com/something/maybesomethingelse instead of just synchro.net.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Dumas Walker on Fri Jan 15 19:37:13 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Fri Jan 15 2021 05:53 pm

    Yeah, when Joe is collecting web site addresses and gets one from some guy at a
    party, they totally botch it.

    I always figured since it was (1) at a party and (2) given verbally, it is likely whoever was giving it couldn't remember it correctly! Some of those urls in the day seemed longer than now... always a www.somewhere.com/something/maybesomethingelse instead of just synchro.net.

    I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a notepad where he has written down a web address given to him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html". This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

    That scene juxtaposed with some of the other scenes where they get very technical details (way more detailed than a correct web address) absolutely correct, indicates that there were either different writers involved at different times or they (sometimes) had technical consultant input. Or maybe they just didn't want their star saying "colon slash slash" on TV. <shrug> :-)
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 16 09:32:00 2021
    Dumas Walker wrote to DIGITAL MAN <=-

    I always figured since it was (1) at a party and (2) given verbally, it
    is likely whoever was giving it couldn't remember it correctly! Some
    of those urls in the day seemed longer than now... always a www.somewhere.com/something/maybesomethingelse instead of just synchro.net.

    URLs and other resource identifiers make nice easter eggs for fans. Mr.
    Robot, if I'm not mistaken, had a couple of URLs that resolved to web sites they set up for the show, and I'm pretty sure they used a real telephone number that went to show information.

    Otherwise, you've got NCISC: Cyber/Hacker show using IPs like 469.289.2.0.


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  • From Phigan@VERT/FINALZON to Zombie Mambo on Sun Jan 17 16:13:20 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

    Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

    It's great when they pull a disk out of one type of machine and then load it right up on a totally different platform. Yeah! That's how computers work alright.

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  • From Phigan@VERT/FINALZON to Digital Man on Sun Jan 17 16:22:57 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Sun Jan 10 2021 11:14 pm

    I guess I expect so little of Hollywood now, I'm impressed when they get *anything* technically correct in a movie or TV show! :-)

    Feel absolutely the same way. There was a show calle Stitchers about being able to enter someone's brain and see their memories after they die. OUTSIDE of that nonsense, any computer stuff they ever showed was properly named and represented! I was totaly amazed.

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  • From Phigan@VERT/FINALZON to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Jan 17 16:36:52 2021
    Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Sat Jan 16 2021 09:32 am

    URLs and other resource identifiers make nice easter eggs for fans. Mr. Robot, if I'm not mistaken, had a couple of URLs that resolved to web sites they set up for the show, and I'm pretty sure they used a real telephone number that went to show information.

    Simpsons did it! When the episode in which Lisa says "According to whatbadgerseat.com" aired, Fox had that doman registered showing what badgers eat. It's been gone for some time, though.

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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Phigan on Tue Jan 19 12:04:56 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Phigan to Zombie Mambo on Sun Jan 17 2021 04:13 pm

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to All on Thu Jan 07 2021 08:18 am

    Of course some of it is total BS, but its right up my alley having had my first PC (A TI-99/4(A)) in 1982. The main character is a hardware guy at heart and his wife works at TI.

    It's great when they pull a disk out of one type of machine and then load it right up on a totally different platform. Yeah! That's how computers work alright.


    or hand spin a drive to recover it...

    Or think for ONE SECOND that anyone could ever create a better computer than the TI-99/4(a) ... Oh the Amiga and C64 made a valiant effort, but we all know TI was the best... Complete with built in coffee warmer...

    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo
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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Zombie Mambo on Tue Jan 19 12:03:12 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to Phigan on Tue Jan 19 2021 12:04 pm

    Or think for ONE SECOND that anyone could ever create a better computer than the TI-99/4(a) ... Oh the Amiga and C64 made a valiant effort, but we all know TI was the best... Complete with built in coffee warmer...

    Hey, I had one of those warmers. The 99/4a was my first computer when I was 7.

    Dream Master

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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Dream Master on Tue Jan 19 21:35:57 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Dream Master to Zombie Mambo on Tue Jan 19 2021 12:03 pm

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to Phigan on Tue Jan 19 2021 12:04 pm

    Or think for ONE SECOND that anyone could ever create a better computer t the TI-99/4(a) ... Oh the Amiga and C64 made a valiant effort, but we all know TI was the best... Complete with built in coffee warmer...

    Hey, I had one of those warmers. The 99/4a was my first computer when I was

    Dream Master


    me too when i was 12... 1982.
    Still have it with disk drive, periphreal expansion (with 32k mem, rs232 and disk controller card, of course), hayes 300 smartmodem, sketch pad, tape drive, and various carts... Although the PEB took a sh*t on me and I think burned everything in it...

    I also have a working Vic-20, trs80 coco, coco II, and model 100 portable, and a time sinclair 1000 that seems DOA now... What fun it is to pull em out, hook em up, and make my kids play games like Parsec, Tunnels of Doom, Hunt the Wumpus, Mega Bug, and others.

    You can't sit a kid in front of a Scott Adams adventure and expect them to last 2 minutes these days... sad really...

    Thanks,
    Zombie Mambo
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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Zombie Mambo on Wed Jan 20 07:45:11 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to Dream Master on Tue Jan 19 2021 09:35 pm

    me too when i was 12... 1982.
    Still have it with disk drive, periphreal expansion (with 32k mem, rs232 and disk controller card, of course), hayes 300 smartmodem, sketch pad, tape drive, and various carts... Although the PEB took a sh*t on me and I think burned everything in it...

    Yep, had all of that. When I had the PEB, my father got sick and tired of the fan noise that came from it, ripped it out, put a much quieter fan inside it and made the world a better place.

    I also have a working Vic-20, trs80 coco, coco II, and model 100 portable, and a time sinclair 1000 that seems DOA now... What fun it is to pull em out, hook em up, and make my kids play games like Parsec, Tunnels of Doom, Hunt the Wumpus, Mega Bug, and others.

    You definitely have some history there. I loved Parsec and Munchman. Tunnels of Doom was fun to play. Okay, now you're making me want to go find my emulators. :)

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ZOMBIE MAMBO on Wed Jan 20 16:31:00 2021
    me too when i was 12... 1982.

    I got mine when I was 11 or 12 in 1981 or 82. :)


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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Dumas Walker on Wed Jan 20 20:55:24 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Dumas Walker to ZOMBIE MAMBO on Wed Jan 20 2021 04:31 pm

    I got mine when I was 11 or 12 in 1981 or 82. :)

    7.5. :)

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Fri Jan 22 09:12:00 2021
    Hello Digital!

    ** On Friday 15.01.21 - 19:37, Digital Man wrote to Dumas Walker:

    I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I
    refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a
    notepad where he has written down a web address given to
    him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've
    got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html".
    This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by
    hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a
    colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

    I'm not in S4 yet, but I just finished watching an episode in S3
    where they introduce a "packet sniffer" and showing it being
    connected to a computer. That seemed to be a bit odd. The FBI
    were investigating the leak for the anti-virus software that was
    posted to the internet. But the sniffer seemed irrelevent
    *after* the fact. I thought a sniffer was designed to trace/
    track activity as it happens, but the upload had already
    happened.


    ..Or maybe they just didn't want their star saying "colon slash
    slash" on TV. <shrug> :-) --

    Looking forward to see that one, and will comment.

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  • From Zombie Mambo@VERT/ZOMBZONE to Dream Master on Fri Jan 22 07:48:00 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Dream Master to Zombie Mambo on Wed Jan 20 2021 07:45 am

    You definitely have some history there. I loved Parsec and Munchman. Tunne of Doom was fun to play. Okay, now you're making me want to go find my emulators. :)

    The greatest thing the 2000s gave the world was emulators in my book. Such fun. Go Get em, slugger! And be sure to play MicroSurgeon and Demon Attack!

    Thanks,
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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 22 13:00:35 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Zombie Mambo to Dream Master on Fri Jan 22 2021 07:48 am

    The greatest thing the 2000s gave the world was emulators in my book. Such fun. Go Get em, slugger! And be sure to play MicroSurgeon and Demon Attack!

    I think I started seeing emulators back in the late 90s - I seem to remember starting to see emulators for NES, SNES, and Sega Genesis around 1997 or 1998 or so. Maybe 1999, I don't remember for sure. But it was right around there, late 90s and early 2000s.

    Since I never had a Playstation, one thing I did was to buy a couple of Playstation controllers (with analog sticks) and a couple of Playstation USB adapters so I could use them with my PC. I used those for a lot of emulators. And although I did have an actual Nintendo 64 in the 90s, I played Super Mario 64 on my PC later with an emulator - and I thought it was funny doing so with a Playstation controller.

    Nightfox

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  • From Dream Master@VERT/CIAD to Nightfox on Fri Jan 22 15:55:08 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on Fri Jan 22 2021 01:00 pm

    Since I never had a Playstation, one thing I did was to buy a couple of Playstation controllers (with analog sticks) and a couple of Playstation USB adapters so I could use them with my PC. I used those for a lot of emulators. And although I did have an actual Nintendo 64 in the 90s, I played Super Mario 64 on my PC later with an emulator - and I thought it was funny doing so with a Playstation controller.

    The greatest event that happened to me was when I bought my Switch and discovered the Nintendo arcade. Basically, legacy NES and SNES titles that can be played as if you still had the console. I've played Zelda, Metroid, and so many others and the nostalgia is amazing!

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  • From BlaZ@VERT/PNLTYBOX to Dream Master on Sat Jan 23 06:32:58 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Fri Jan 22 2021 03:55 pm

    The greatest event that happened to me was when I bought my Switch and discovered the Nintendo arcade. Basically, legacy NES and SNES titles that can be played as if you still had the console. I've played Zelda, Metroid, and so many others and the nostalgia is amazing!


    Square/Enix remade the first three Dragon Quest (Dragon Warrior) games, too. Those brought back tons of memories also. Love the Switch.

    BlaZ

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Digital Man on Sat Jan 23 08:14:00 2021
    Hello Digital!

    ** On Friday 15.01.21 - 19:37, Digital Man wrote to Dumas Walker:

    I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I
    refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a
    notepad where he has written down a web address given to
    him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've
    got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html".
    This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by
    hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a
    colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

    Just saw the episode. You are totally right. They skipped the
    "colon". If I were the writer, I would have skipped the "http"
    and "slash slash" parts and just have the actors cite the
    relevant text parts. But I don't find the missing ":" a botch-
    up. It's probably more like you say below, that they didn't
    think they wanted the actors to say "colon". Maybe they
    couldn't stop laughing while filming those scenes with the colon
    said repeatedly.


    That scene juxtaposed with some of the other scenes where
    they get very technical details (way more detailed than a
    correct web address) absolutely correct, indicates that
    there were either different writers involved at different
    times or they (sometimes) had technical consultant input.
    Or maybe they just didn't want their star saying "colon
    slash slash" on TV. <shrug> :-) --

    Did any of the closeup shots show the full and proper "http://"
    parts on the post-it notes? I wasn't thinking of looking for
    that at the time.

    The whole idea of this brilliant man Joe indexing the web by
    hand on post-it notes (for 3 years) seems absurd. Couldn't they
    imagine that a spreadsheet or a database would have been more
    realistic?

    Even I started using a database in the early 90's as I started
    to catalog my LP and CD collection. I used Alpha. It had a
    really easy way to build forms using WYSIWYG.

    Another thing that isn't really clear in that episode.. what
    exactly is "the doorway" that their new company is grounded on?
    Is it simply an ISP company?

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Dream Master on Sat Jan 23 09:46:20 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Dream Master to Nightfox on Fri Jan 22 2021 03:55 pm

    The greatest event that happened to me was when I bought my Switch and discovered the Nintendo arcade. Basically, legacy NES and SNES titles that can be played as if you still had the console. I've played Zelda, Metroid, and so many others and the nostalgia is amazing!

    That's nothing new. With the Nintendo Wii, Nintendo had their 'Virtual Console' which did the same thing. And that was back in 2006(?) when the Wii came out.

    Nightfox

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Sat Jan 23 10:09:17 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Ogg to Digital Man on Sat Jan 23 2021 08:14 am

    I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I
    refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a
    notepad where he has written down a web address given to
    him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've
    got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html".
    This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by
    hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a
    colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

    Just saw the episode. You are totally right. They skipped the
    "colon". If I were the writer, I would have skipped the "http"
    and "slash slash" parts and just have the actors cite the
    relevant text parts. But I don't find the missing ":" a botch-
    up. It's probably more like you say below, that they didn't
    think they wanted the actors to say "colon". Maybe they
    couldn't stop laughing while filming those scenes with the colon
    said repeatedly.

    I often used to hear people say only 2 Ws instead of 3 (such as "W W dot google dot come). I'm not sure why people would only say 2.

    One of my pet peeves is when people get slashes backwards, confusing / and \. I've heard people refer to \ as a slash (or forward slash) and / as a backslash. I've seen people enter URLs into the browser with \ instead of /, and I've heard ads on the radio & TV where someone is giving a URL and they say "backslash".. I always think, no, web URLs don't use backslashes, they use forward slashes.

    Nightfox

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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Nightfox on Sun Jan 24 12:31:00 2021
    Hello Nightfox!

    ** On Saturday 23.01.21 - 10:09, Nightfox wrote to Ogg:

    Just saw the episode. You are totally right. They skipped the
    "colon". If I were the writer, I would have skipped the "http"
    and "slash slash" parts and just have the actors cite the
    relevant text parts. ...

    I often used to hear people say only 2 Ws instead of 3 (such as "W W dot google dot come). I'm not sure why people would only say 2.

    I always hear people say 3 W's.

    But I warmed up to "dub dub dub". Not sure where I heard
    someone use that first.


    One of my pet peeves is when people get slashes backwards, confusing / and \. I've heard people refer to \ as a slash (or forward slash) and / as a backslash. I've seen people enter URLs into the browser with \ instead of /, and I've heard ads on the radio & TV where someone is giving a URL and they say "backslash".. I always think, no, web URLs don't use
    backslashes, they use forward slashes.

    I think today's browsers don't care about \ or /. They seem to
    auto-correct. Infact, most browsers don't care about "http://"
    at all. But early in the game it seemed to be a problem, for
    sure. Today, even when someone DOES need to mention a / to
    direct a visitor to subpage, they just say "slash". That's a
    fine compromise.

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  • From Bob Roberts@VERT/HOVAL to Ogg on Sun Jan 24 13:49:32 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Ogg to Nightfox on Sun Jan 24 2021 12:31 pm

    I often used to hear people say only 2 Ws instead of 3 (such as "W W dot
    google dot come). I'm not sure why people would only say 2.

    I always hear people say 3 W's.
    But I warmed up to "dub dub dub". Not sure where I heard
    someone use that first.

    It seems most of the "www" part gets omited when verbally transfering a URL. Most sites work with and without it. The problem is people will assume "www" even if you don't say it. "Go to secure.companypage.net" and they reply back "www.secure.companypage.net." "No, no www. Just secure.companypage.net".... "oh".

    Bob Roberts

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  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to Ogg on Sun Jan 24 15:29:31 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Ogg to Nightfox on Sun Jan 24 2021 12:31 pm

    One of my pet peeves is when people get slashes backwards, confusing
    / and \. I've heard people refer to \ as a slash (or forward slash)
    and / as a backslash. I've seen people enter URLs into the browser
    with \ instead of /, and I've heard ads on the radio & TV where
    someone is giving a URL and they say "backslash".. I always think,
    no, web URLs don't use backslashes, they use forward slashes.

    I think today's browsers don't care about \ or /. They seem to auto-correct. Infact, most browsers don't care about "http://"
    at all. But early in the game it seemed to be a problem, for
    sure. Today, even when someone DOES need to mention a / to
    direct a visitor to subpage, they just say "slash". That's a
    fine compromise.

    Yeah, I hear people mention a slash for a subpage. But as far as I know, "slash" has always been synonymous with "forward slash", so it makes sense. But I still sometimes hear people say "backslash" when giving a URL with a subpage.

    Nightfox

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Ogg on Thu Jan 28 14:50:00 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: Ogg to Digital Man on Sat Jan 23 2021 08:14 am

    Hello Digital!

    ** On Friday 15.01.21 - 19:37, Digital Man wrote to Dumas Walker:

    I'm referring to the scene in Season 4 Episode 1 (I
    refreshed my memory on Netflix) where Joe is reading from a
    notepad where he has written down a web address given to
    him by the "bonsai guy" at the party and he says "So I've
    got http slash slash whatever.edu slash whatever dot html".
    This is supposed to be a tech mogul that is indexing (by
    hand) the web, and he doesn't yet know that he needs a
    colon after the "scheme" in a URL?

    Just saw the episode. You are totally right. They skipped the
    "colon". If I were the writer, I would have skipped the "http"
    and "slash slash" parts and just have the actors cite the
    relevant text parts. But I don't find the missing ":" a botch-
    up. It's probably more like you say below, that they didn't
    think they wanted the actors to say "colon". Maybe they
    couldn't stop laughing while filming those scenes with the colon
    said repeatedly.


    That scene juxtaposed with some of the other scenes where
    they get very technical details (way more detailed than a
    correct web address) absolutely correct, indicates that
    there were either different writers involved at different
    times or they (sometimes) had technical consultant input.
    Or maybe they just didn't want their star saying "colon
    slash slash" on TV. <shrug> :-) --

    Did any of the closeup shots show the full and proper "http://"
    parts on the post-it notes? I wasn't thinking of looking for
    that at the time.

    The whole idea of this brilliant man Joe indexing the web by
    hand on post-it notes (for 3 years) seems absurd. Couldn't they
    imagine that a spreadsheet or a database would have been more
    realistic?

    Even I started using a database in the early 90's as I started
    to catalog my LP and CD collection. I used Alpha. It had a
    really easy way to build forms using WYSIWYG.

    Another thing that isn't really clear in that episode.. what
    exactly is "the doorway" that their new company is grounded on?
    Is it simply an ISP company?


    The reason for the post it board was to show how small the web first was, and how fast it took off. It's done for impact value to show it could've been done.

    IIRC their was doorway was an ISP and a high speed backbone. The telcos were dropping them first in exchange for their own high speed data services.

    One of the themes of the series is evolution, and their way of making money involved finding "the next big thing."

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Moondog on Sat Jan 30 07:28:00 2021
    Moondog wrote to Ogg <=-

    The reason for the post it board was to show how small the web first
    was, and how fast it took off. It's done for impact value to show it could've been done.

    I remember an email list that had a weekly email showing all of the new web sites that week. :)

    One of the themes of the series is evolution, and their way of making money involved finding "the next big thing."

    They always ended up missing out each of the seasons. I think the other
    theme is "the journey is the reward".


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Moondog on Sat Jan 30 09:48:00 2021
    Hello Moondog!

    ** On Thursday 28.01.21 - 14:50, Moondog wrote to Ogg:

    The whole idea of this brilliant man Joe indexing the web by
    hand on post-it notes (for 3 years) seems absurd. Couldn't
    they imagine that a spreadsheet or a database would have
    been more realistic?

    Even I started using a database in the early 90's as I
    started to catalog my LP and CD collection. I used Alpha.
    It had a really easy way to build forms using WYSIWYG.

    Another thing that isn't really clear in that episode..
    what exactly is "the doorway" that their new company is
    grounded on? Is it simply an ISP company?



    The reason for the post it board was to show how small the
    web first was, and how fast it took off. It's done for
    impact value to show it could've been done.

    Yes.. but Joe was in the basement for THREE YEARS. Maintaining
    the sticky-note solution that long seemed silly for a forward-
    thinker like the Joe character.

    I think they showed at least 4 large post it boards.

    However, I could see it playing favourably into the plot if say
    they lost everything in a computer crash or something within
    those 3 years. But to not even start typing any of the http
    addresses in a spreadsheet seemed short-sighted by the script
    writers and made the Joe character not be the visionary he was
    made out to be.


    IIRC their was doorway was an ISP and a high speed backbone.
    The telcos were dropping them first in exchange for their
    own high speed data services.

    Yes.. the term "ISP" was uttered for the first (and only time)
    into the 2nd or 3 episode of S4.


    One of the themes of the series is evolution, and their way
    of making money involved finding "the next big thing."

    So.. what was "the idea" that Donna came up with at the end?
    Internet Caf�s, hotspots?


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to poindexter FORTRAN on Sat Jan 30 17:10:38 2021
    Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Net
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Sat Jan 30 2021 07:28 am

    Moondog wrote to Ogg <=-

    The reason for the post it board was to show how small the web first
    was, and how fast it took off. It's done for impact value to show
    it could've been done.

    I remember an email list that had a weekly email showing all of the new web sites that week. :)


    oh i didnt even have that. i got magazines and books to find the cool new websites!

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  • From Pferor@VERT/BGGRSCYN to Bob Roberts on Wed Feb 24 05:00:03 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Bob Roberts to Nightfox on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:30 pm

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Nightfox to Zombie Mambo on

    Has anyone watched Halt and Catch Fire Yet?
    I'm hooked.
    All about the late 70s-80s home computer craze, corporate competition,
    etc.


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  • From Pferor@VERT/BGGRSCYN to Bob Roberts on Wed Feb 24 05:03:07 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Bob Roberts to Nightfox on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:30 pm

    The first few episodes are rough. But it gets better -- a lot better. It really is a great series both in acting and story, but also all the fun easter eggs about retro technology and silicon valley back in the day. In Season 2 (I think) is all around BBS and pre-internet online.

    Yes. 'Halt and Catch Fire' become one of my favourite shows in my life. One thing I liked was the way the story progresses instead of being that kind of show where nothing changes throughout the seasons. Here, the plot evolves, the character evolve, everything and everybody grow. You can connect with those characters... all of them in one way or another.

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  • From Pferor@VERT/BGGRSCYN to Ogg on Wed Feb 24 05:06:59 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Ogg to Zombie Mambo on Thu Jan 07 2021 10:10 pm

    I don't see the AJ resemblance, but the actress is well cast.
    All the characters start to grow on you as the series proceeds.

    Me nither, but I was bugged for a long time with that actress, because I know I saw her somewhere, but I couldn't remember where. It turns out that her name is Mackenzie Davis, and it looked familiar to me because she stars in 'Blade Runner 2049'.

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  • From Rampage@VERT/SESTAR to Pferor on Thu Feb 25 06:31:37 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Pferor to Ogg on Wed Feb 24 2021 05:06:59

    Me nither, but I was bugged for a long time with that actress, because
    I know I saw her somewhere, but I couldn't remember where. It turns
    out that her name is Mackenzie Davis, and it looked familiar to me
    because she stars in 'Blade Runner 2049'.

    she also played in 'The Martian' which may be better known by some than the blade runner stuff...


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Rampage on Thu Feb 25 09:19:00 2021
    Hello Rampage!

    ** On Thursday 25.02.21 - 06:31, Rampage wrote to Pferor:

    she also played in 'The Martian' which may be better known
    by some than the blade runner stuff...

    I'll have to keep that in mind the next time I feel nostalgic
    and want to revisit the Martian or try Blade Runner 2049 - and
    look for familiar supporting actors.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Rampage on Thu Feb 25 17:49:22 2021
    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Rampage to Pferor on Thu Feb 25 2021 06:31 am

    Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: Pferor to Ogg on Wed Feb 24 2021 05:06:59

    Me nither, but I was bugged for a long time with that actress, because
    I know I saw her somewhere, but I couldn't remember where. It turns
    out that her name is Mackenzie Davis, and it looked familiar to me because she stars in 'Blade Runner 2049'.

    she also played in 'The Martian' which may be better known by some than the blade runner stuff...

    I just watched 'The Martian' again a couple of days ago and was happy to see (and no recognize Cameron) in it. They also use the word "sysop" as a verb in that movie!
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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Digital Man on Fri Feb 26 06:38:00 2021
    Digital Man wrote to Rampage <=-

    I just watched 'The Martian' again a couple of days ago and was happy
    to see (and no recognize Cameron) in it. They also use the word "sysop"
    as a verb in that movie!

    My wife and I both bought potatoes when we went shopping separately, and my first thought was that we'd make it to Sol 549 now.

    I need to watch The Martian less often.

    And buy more ketchup.


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  • From Digital Man@VERT to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Feb 26 14:25:39 2021
    Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire - Netflix
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Fri Feb 26 2021 06:38 am

    My wife and I both bought potatoes when we went shopping separately, and my first thought was that we'd make it to Sol 549 now.

    I need to watch The Martian less often.

    And buy more ketchup.

    And Vicodin! :-)
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