Any Nexflix users here? Have you checked out the series "Halt and Catch Fire"? Reminds me of my experiences of the 80's and early 90's. It's fictional companies and characters but pretty spot on of what went on in that era.
Any Nexflix users here? Have you checked out the series "Halt and Catch Fire"? Reminds me of my experiences of the 80's and early 90's. It's fictional companies and characters but pretty spot on of what went on in that era.
Any Nexflix users here? Have you checked out the series "Halt and Catch Fir
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Any Nexflix users here? Have you checked out the series "Halt and Catch
What a great show. I was hooked after the first episode, and absolutely blow away whenever they'd reference companies like Tandy and Sierra.
Any Nexflix users here? Have you checked out the series "Halt and Catch
What a great show. I was hooked after the first episode, and absolutely blow away whenever they'd reference companies like Tandy and Sierra.
Any Nexflix users here? Have you checked out the series "Halt and Catch Fire"? >Reminds me of my experiences of the 80's and early 90's. It's fictional compani
s and characters but pretty spot on of what went on in that era.
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Codefenix to HusTler on Sun Aug 23 2020 07:59 pm
Any Nexflix users here? Have you checked out the series "Halt and Catch
What a great show. I was hooked after the first episode, and absolutely b away whenever they'd reference companies like Tandy and Sierra.
I'm only into Season 2 Episode 2 but I've watched all these episodes in 2 any I worked for back then was a startup interent company. It was owned by 3 I guess I can relate to the show eh? lol
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Any Nexflix users here? Have you checked out the series "Halt and Catch
I watched it when it originally ran on AMC. I really enjoyed it.
The prop guys did an awesome job. For Season 2 they contacted a C64 preservation group, which loaned all the vintage monitors, pc's and drives. Note that very few if any of the 1541's had cables connected to them.
The company I worked
for started in a house with 15 2400 baud modems and 10 14.4k modems. When it w
sold they owned the new building, 10 dedicated web servers blah blah. I went
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to HusTler on Mon Aug 24 2020 10:32 pm
The prop guys did an awesome job. For Season 2 they contacted a C64 preservation group, which loaned all the vintage monitors, pc's and drive Note that very few if any of the 1541's had cables connected to them.
Wow thanks for that. I was wondering where they got that stuff. Especially
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The company I worked
for started in a house with 15 2400 baud modems and 10 14.4k modems.
I won't ruin it for you in case you've not got there yet, but there is
going to be a season or so that may bring back a lot of memories for you. :)
Moondog wrote to HusTler <=-
What I find interesting is the Mutiny service is similar to what was
known as PlayNET, which evolved into Quantum Link. Quantum Link wanted
to reach a larg er audience than C-64 users, then evolved into AOL for
the PC.
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Tue Aug 25 2020 06:38 pm
The company I worked
for started in a house with 15 2400 baud modems and 10 14.4k modems.
I won't ruin it for you in case you've not got there yet, but there is going to be a season or so that may bring back a lot of memories for you.
The show really reminds me of the stress we were all under. We would have m hook. Stressful yes. But I really enjoyed it. Just like the show we were all
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Moondog wrote to HusTler <=-
What I find interesting is the Mutiny service is similar to what was known as PlayNET, which evolved into Quantum Link. Quantum Link wanted to reach a larg er audience than C-64 users, then evolved into AOL for the PC.
I had the feeling that the use of C=64s was a nod to QuantumLink.
What I find interesting is the Mutiny service is similar to what was known as PlayNET, which evolved into Quantum Link. Quantum Link
I had the feeling that the use of C=64s was a nod to QuantumLink.
I used QuantumLink for 3 months. I remember it being more expensive than AOL or Compuserve. If memory serves me correctly AOL was $9.99/mo and
quantumlink was expensive because my uncle used it and said how much he was spending on it and i was like god damn. i remember him making airline
airline
I think Quantumlink was the only service that supported Commodore Graphics (CG). They knew they were the only show in town. Plus commodore computers were on the way out so I guess the die hards were willing to pay the price. Man I'm so glad I found BBSin. What a fiasco that was back then. lol
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: MRO to HusTler on Sat Aug 29 2020 03:24 pm
I used QuantumLink for 3 months. I remember it being more expensive tha AOL or Compuserve. If memory serves me correctly AOL was $9.99/mo and
quantumlink was expensive because my uncle used it and said how much he w spending on it and i was like god damn. i remember him making airline
I think Quantumlink was the only service that supported Commodore Graphics in. What a fiasco that was back then. lol
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Now it would be amazing that they had a website instead of a facebook
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Dumas Walker to HUSTLER on Tue Aug 25 2020 18:38:00
Now it would be amazing that they had a website instead of a facebook
I have my websites. I quit using Facebook a while back. Deleted my account and have
intention of ever using that Goddess foresaken service ever again.
Lupine Furmen
-Dallas Vinson
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Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: HusTler to All on Sun Aug 23 2020 03:37 pm
I just watched the first two episodes, but I think I'm gonna enjoy the whole show.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I just watched the first two episodes, but I think I'm gonna enjoy the whole sh
w.
What better place to mention it. A bunch of bbs computer buffs. I finished the >entire series. Pretty munch binge watched it. Thought it was great. I wish it h
ad gone further. I'm glad you liked it. Enjoy.
It changes pace a little after the first season. Be sure to stick it out
as it it worth it.
Limping Ninja wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Also, please don't feel ashamed when you cry.
Pferor wrote to HusTler <=-
This is, probably, the best show I watched. I cannot appreciate
enough. Honestly, thanks.
Just noticed. If you watch the very last episode, can you tell me the title of one book Joe has on his shelf? XD
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halt_and_Catch_Fire_(TV_series)
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
I had various issues with it, but most of all when they take the floppy disk out of one platform computer and put it into a different one to load up the same program.
YES, seen it several years ago. I thought it was pretty good
too. I really liked the part where they are trying to recover
the lost data on the hard drives.
There's a fantastic TV series, "Halt and Catch Fire," a period drama about t
and is really well done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halt_and_Catch_Fire_(TV_series)
Given how much many of us grew up with BBS'es and personal computers in the
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
-=- Kaelon -=-
There's a fantastic TV series, "Halt and Catch Fire," a period drama about the creation of modern day personal computing starting in the early 1980s. It is fictionalized and is supposed to be an amalgamation of the IBM "Compatible" and Compaq storylines, and is really well done.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halt_and_Catch_Fire_(TV_series)
Given how much many of us grew up with BBS'es and personal computers in the 1980s, this show really hits home hard. Highly recommended. It was recently on Netflix, and is essentially equated to "Mad Men for PC Hackers."
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
I've only seen part of the first episode. I've been meaning to keep watching it.
Kaelon wrote to All <=-
Given how much many of us grew up with BBS'es and personal computers in the 1980s, this show really hits home hard. Highly recommended. It
was recently on Netflix, and is essentially equated to "Mad Men for PC Hackers."
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
Probably my favorite show of the last decade. The characters and setting are great.
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Kaelon to All on Sun May 01 2022 14:54:45
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
I had various issues with it, but most of all when they take the floppy disk
Ehhhhh.. :)
It's an entertaining show, though.
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Ogg to Kaelon on Sun May 01 2022 08:27 pm
YES, seen it several years ago. I thought it was pretty good
too. I really liked the part where they are trying to recover
the lost data on the hard drives.
Yes! I especially like how they built a work-around to break the IBM PC-DOS
of breaking IBM's apparent monopoly. Extremely entertaining!
_____
-=: Kaelon :=-
Nitpicking a show is part of the fun watching it unless it spoils the suspensi on of reality. The art and set department's job is to provide the feel of
the environment without drilling down to reality. Reality is dry and boring.
I read about a computer that was used mainly in classrooms in Russia, and it's name was the Russian word for Apple. Collectors have confirmed they were pirated Apple clones with Wozniak's notations left in the BIOS.
There's a fantastic TV series, "Halt and Catch Fire," a period drama about t creation of modern day personal computing starting in the early 1980s. It is
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
I loved it and also lived it. ;-)
Codefenix wrote to Kaelon <=-
Probably my favorite show of the last decade. The characters and
setting are great.
Moondog wrote to Kaelon <=-
I read about a computer that was used mainly in classrooms in Russia,
and it's name was the Russian word for Apple. Collectors have
confirmed they were pirated Apple clones with Wozniak's notations left
in the BIOS.
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to Kaelon on Mon May 02 2022 09:42 pm
I read about a computer that was used mainly in classrooms in Russia, and it's name was the Russian word for Apple. Collectors have confirmed they were pirated Apple clones with Wozniak's notations left in the BIOS.
That's hilarious! I had no clue about this.
_____
-=: Kaelon :=-
technology. The Soviets and Red China cannot be paid off from using a technology that would put them ahead of every country in the free world. They were not afraid to freely steal intellectual property.
poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Codefenix <=-
Probably my favorite show of the last decade. The characters and
setting are great.
I've not been sucked into a show, and more gutpunched by a
character leaving the show as I was with HACF. Loved it,
especially with the time jumps and scenery/cultural changes each
season.
Moondog wrote to Kaelon <=-
I read about a computer that was used mainly in classrooms in Russia, and it's name was the Russian word for Apple. Collectors have confirmed they were pirated Apple clones with Wozniak's notations left in the BIOS.
Compaq reverse engineered the PC BIOS much in the way they described in HACF, although with some theatrical license on the show. I always thought that Cardiff was supposed to be Compaq, seeing as they were both in Texas and both battling IBM in the marketplace.
Compaq didn't come from a mainframe background, though.
... "The swift blade penetrates the salad."
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to Kaelon on Tue May 03 2022 01:36 pm
technology. The Soviets and Red China cannot be paid off from using a technology that would put them ahead of every country in the free world. They were not afraid to freely steal intellectual property.
I would generally agree, but one 'conspiracy theory' that is hard to shake i ring line was U.S.-controlled, but there is enough industry insider disclosu _____
-=: Kaelon :=-
Compaq reverse engineered the PC BIOS much in the way they described in
HACF, although with some theatrical license on the show. I always thought that Cardiff was supposed to be Compaq, seeing as they were both in Texas
and both battling IBM in the marketplace.
Compaq didn't come from a mainframe background, though.
I would generally agree, but one 'conspiracy theory' that is hard to shake is e proven story of how General Motors killed the first Electric Vehicle, despit
its proven technical success. Perhaps gasoline was too cheap, and the entire pply manufacturing line was U.S.-controlled, but there is enough industry insi
r disclosure about this that it is generally accepted as fact.
Dumas Walker wrote to KAELON <=-
General Motors did not exist when the first electric vehicles were
built well over 100 years ago.
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Anyways, they also shared similar beginnings as Cardiff. Cardiff also
had a bit of Texas Instruments in their DNA.
Moondog wrote to Kaelon <=-
A company killing off their own development is different than external investors suppressing technology. Xerox is a good example of a company killing a good idea because of cost due to the technology available.
In 1973 they create the Palo Alto Research Center to research the possibilies of a paperless office.
The upper managment was short sighted and seen it as an
exercise in spending money. After all, they were a copier/ imagin company. Why interfere with their paper driven businesses?
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
Compaq didn't come from a mainframe background, though.
IIRC, Compaq also didn't used to sell radio kits, either, but part of
it could have been based off of what they did.
General Motors did not exist when the first electric vehicles were built well over 100 years ago.
I think of the stories of Steve Wozniak approaching his employer
(Hewlett Packard) to notify them that he'd created the Apple while
under a work product agreement and HP had first right to his IP. They passed on it.
But people need to remember that, at that time, the only paved roads were within the city limits, greatly limiting the area where one could drive an electic car - since they didn't have the power to go through things like deep mud.
Anyways, they also shared similar beginnings as Cardiff. Cardiff also had a bit of Texas Instruments in their DNA.
Interesting, since the Clarks worked there and left to start their
first project. If memory serves, one of their daughters had a Speak
and Spell that they fixed, and they were involved in the design.
Compaq reverse engineered the PC BIOS much in the way they described in HACF, although with some theatrical license on the show. I always thought that Cardiff was supposed to be Compaq, seeing as they were both in Texas and both battling IBM in the marketplace.
Compaq didn't come from a mainframe background, though.
IIRC, Compaq also didn't used to sell radio kits, either, but part of it could have been based off of what they did.
* SLMR 2.1a * She cried away her life since she fell off the cradle!!
I would generally agree, but one 'conspiracy theory' that is hard to shake e proven story of how General Motors killed the first Electric Vehicle, de its proven technical success. Perhaps gasoline was too cheap, and the ent pply manufacturing line was U.S.-controlled, but there is enough industry r disclosure about this that it is generally accepted as fact.
General Motors did not exist when the first electric vehicles were built well over 100 years ago.
* SLMR 2.1a * "Stamp Collection?? Ha-Ha!" - Nelson
Moondog wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Anyways, they also shared similar beginnings as Cardiff. Cardiff also had a bit of Texas Instruments in their DNA.
Interesting, since the Clarks worked there and left to start their
first project. If memory serves, one of their daughters had a Speak
and Spell that they fixed, and they were involved in the design.
... Towards the insignificant
Moondog wrote to Kaelon <=-
A company killing off their own development is different than external investors suppressing technology. Xerox is a good example of a company killing a good idea because of cost due to the technology available.
In 1973 they create the Palo Alto Research Center to research the possibilies of a paperless office.
Maybe they let their project fail because their business model
revolved around TRILLIONS OF PIECES OF PAPER?
The upper managment was short sighted and seen it as an
exercise in spending money. After all, they were a copier/ imagin company. Why interfere with their paper driven businesses?
:)
I think of the stories of Steve Wozniak approaching his employer
(Hewlett Packard) to notify them that he'd created the Apple while
under a work product agreement and HP had first right to his IP. They
passed on it.
... Go outside. Shut the door.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Wed May 04 2022 07:10 am
I think of the stories of Steve Wozniak approaching his employer (Hewlett Packard) to notify them that he'd created the Apple while under a work product agreement and HP had first right to his IP. They passed on it.
I remember the scene in "Pirates of Silicon Valley" showing Steve Wozniak br
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Anyways, they also shared similar beginnings as Cardiff. Cardiff als had a bit of Texas Instruments in their DNA.
Interesting, since the Clarks worked there and left to start their
first project. If memory serves, one of their daughters had a Speak
and Spell that they fixed, and they were involved in the design.
I don't think Clark's wife worked at Cardiff... or are you saying that they both worked at TI at one point (she did for sure)?
* SLMR 2.1a * "We use language??" - Beavis
Wehn I worked in nuclear power generation, my boss had been there since the plant went online in 1978. Computer Science and Services was a subset from the Instrumentation and Controls department. His boss bought 3 desktops and upper management freaked out. They were considered less useful than a terminal because they couldn't connect to anything, and wereway less powerful than a mainframe. It took several years before minds were changed. 15 years ago they replaced most of their computers with a thin client environment, then recently went back to desktops due to downfalls in having a terminal server being a critical point of failure
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
Interesting, since the Clarks worked there and left to start their
first project. If memory serves, one of their daughters had a Speak
and Spell that they fixed, and they were involved in the design.
I don't think Clark's wife worked at Cardiff... or are you saying that they both worked at TI at one point (she did for sure)?
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Fri May 06 2022 11:32 am
Wehn I worked in nuclear power generation, my boss had been there since the plant went online in 1978. Computer Science and Services was a subs from the Instrumentation and Controls department. His boss bought 3 desktops and upper management freaked out. They were considered less useful than a terminal because they couldn't connect to anything, and wereway less powerful than a mainframe. It took several years before mi were changed. 15 years ago they replaced most of their computers with a thin client environment, then recently went back to desktops due to downfalls in having a terminal server being a critical point of failure
With the online and cloud apps being developed these days, I think it's a li g online software again.
Nightfox
Unless you are doing something hardware intensive such as gaming, video editing or 3d modeling or cad. Served apps are the way to go. No worries about software patches at the server end. That was one of the nice things
Downsides are bandwidth and enough memory and cpu utilization set aside to run everything
Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-
Interesting, since the Clarks worked there and left to start their
first project. If memory serves, one of their daughters had a Speak
and Spell that they fixed, and they were involved in the design.
I don't think Clark's wife worked at Cardiff... or are you saying that they both worked at TI at one point (she did for sure)?
I thought they both did at one time. I'm sure there's a HACF wiki
out there I can check...
... A journey of a thousand sandwiches begins with a single cut.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Sat May 07 2022 12:56 pm
Unless you are doing something hardware intensive such as gaming, video editing or 3d modeling or cad. Served apps are the way to go. No worrie about software patches at the server end. That was one of the nice thin
Downsides are bandwidth and enough memory and cpu utilization set aside run everything
I can see how served apps can have their advantages. But I was going to say evice so there are no latency issues.
And I do a lot of what you mentioned above - Gaming, video editing (usually
Nightfox
I don't think Clark's wife worked at Cardiff... or are you saying that they
both worked at TI at one point (she did for sure)?
Clark and Donna met in college, like the creators of Cisco. Clark worked for Cardiff, Donna worked for TI.
I don't think Clark's wife worked at Cardiff... or are you saying that they both worked at TI at one point (she did for sure)?
I thought they both did at one time. I'm sure there's a HACF wiki
out there I can check...
In a business environment many of those things you mention (and I mentioned) as being processor intensive) are non-issues, since gaming is usually forbidden on company time, and video editing, drafting and design
I don't think Clark's wife worked at Cardiff... or are you saying tha they both worked at TI at one point (she did for sure)?
I thought they both did at one time. I'm sure there's a HACF wiki
out there I can check...
Could have. I do know that at some point, before the period the show covered, they worked on a PC-type pet project together and that it
didn't work out. That came up some while Clark was trying to get the Giant together.
* SLMR 2.1a * It's the Bucket woman! She'll sing at me!!!
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Sun May 08 2022 08:03 am
In a business environment many of those things you mention (and I mentioned) as being processor intensive) are non-issues, since gaming i usually forbidden on company time, and video editing, drafting and desi
I was thinking mainly of home use. If business use was the focus of the thr
Nightfox
Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
Thin clients are more of a "pay me now" form of maintaining a
multi-user desktop environment. It pays off in the long run when
software patches and revisions are made, or someone's workstation
hardware craps out, and they can walk over to any open desk in their department and have access to all their apps and storage.
(aside: I was watching old episodes of "Computer Chronicles", and
they talked about, if you had an "internet TV", they could "blast"
FOUR MEGABYTES work of programs to you, in less than 2 minutes! My,
how far we've come...)
Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
Thin clients are more of a "pay me now" form of maintaining a multi-user desktop environment. It pays off in the long run when software patches and revisions are made, or someone's workstation hardware craps out, and they can walk over to any open desk in their department and have access to all their apps and storage.
As an IT manager, I always thought they'd be a great solution for
most office workers, but when we set up roaming profiles to get the
portability aspect of thin clients, I'd get that person who'd put *all* of
their apps on the desktop, making their roaming profile huge. It'd
take them forever to log in over a fast ethernet connection.
They'd complain, we'd urge them to put their files on the server, and
they'd prefer to complain that make something work.
(aside: I was watching old episodes of "Computer Chronicles", and
they talked about, if you had an "internet TV", they could "blast"
FOUR MEGABYTES work of programs to you, in less than 2 minutes! My,
how far we've come...)
... Is there something missing?
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Tue May 10 2022 06:45 am
(aside: I was watching old episodes of "Computer Chronicles", and
they talked about, if you had an "internet TV", they could "blast"
FOUR MEGABYTES work of programs to you, in less than 2 minutes! My,
how far we've come...)
Yeah, we've come a long way.
I think I might have seen a couple episodes of that show when I was a kid, b sode where they talked about buying a Mac vs. a PC, etc.).
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manager. Once you isgned in, the Zen desktop would pop up a window with all the apps you have access to. If you need some thing else, you fill out a
Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
It use dto air on the local PBS station back in the mid yo late 80's.
I recall one where they had two companies reviewing their product, and
the Korean based firm's sales rep said they were experimenting with joining severa l lcd panels to form larger panels.
panels were long, slender panels cpable of maybe 80x10 rows. The sales guy was estatic, sying active matrix color was right around the corner, and large high definition TV's will put CRT's out of business. The
other sales guy laughed, and stated a bunch of stats about viewing
angle, latency in twist rate of the crystals, and the computing power needed to multiplex all these little panels into one larger one. The slaes guy form the Korean company made a remark about a difference in
US and Asian engineering investment. The main difference was regarding time span before maturity versus price. Us firms were looking at 3-5 years maturity versus what was possible in 10+ years.
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One of the episodes of Computer Chronicles was at CoffeeNet, an
internet cafe before coffee shops knew what Linux or Wifi was. I
remember seeing it back in the late '90s.
Moondog wrote to Nightfox <=-
It use dto air on the local PBS station back in the mid yo late 80's.
I recall one where they had two companies reviewing their product, and the Korean based firm's sales rep said they were experimenting with joining severa l lcd panels to form larger panels.
Gary Kildall, the co-host with the beard, is the guy who famously
missed an appointment with IBM and missed the opportunity to
sell CPM/86 to them for the IBM PC.
If memory serves, one of our local affiliates in the San Francisco
Bay Area produced the show. I love seeing balding nerds with wire-rim
prescription glasses in white starched shirts and tie-pins talking
about microprocessors, micro-floppies and more effective data
processing, reminds me of where IT came from. In Halt and Catch Fire,
when Joe goes to work for his girlfriend's dad's company in season 2,
it wasn't that far off.
One of the episodes of Computer Chronicles was at CoffeeNet, an
internet cafe before coffee shops knew what Linux or Wifi was. I
remember seeing it back in the late '90s.
I don't know if they ever covered SFNet, a multi-node dial-up BBS in
San Francisco that had coin-op kiosks in coffee shops and
laundromats. They did a lot to bring non-computer people into the
community, especially when a lot of people didn't have home computers
yet.
Before then LCD
panels were long, slender panels cpable of maybe 80x10 rows. The sales guy was estatic, sying active matrix color was right around the corner, and large high definition TV's will put CRT's out of business. The other sales guy laughed, and stated a bunch of stats about viewing angle, latency in twist rate of the crystals, and the computing power needed to multiplex all these little panels into one larger one. The slaes guy form the Korean company made a remark about a difference in US and Asian engineering investment. The main difference was regarding time span before maturity versus price. Us firms were looking at 3-5 years maturity versus what was possible in 10+ years.
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... Is it finished?
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
With the online and cloud apps being developed these days, I think it's a little weird that we've gone from using dumb terminals connected to mainframes years ago, to having our own powerful desktop computers, to now many people using simple devices using online software again.
(aside: I was watching old episodes of "Computer Chronicles", and
they talked about, if you had an "internet TV", they could "blast"
FOUR MEGABYTES work of programs to you, in less than 2 minutes! My,
how far we've come...)
Yeah, there's always some misfit trying to use their system is a way that breaks things. At a previous site we had to lock down a user's profile so the y couldn't change things enoughto get in trouble. When they would complain
Gary Kildall, the co-host with the beard, is the guy who famously
missed an appointment with IBM and missed the opportunity to
sell CPM/86 to them for the IBM PC.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Fri May 06 2022 02:41 pm
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
With the online and cloud apps being developed these days, I think it's a little weird that we've gone from using dumb terminals connected to mainframes years ago, to having our own powerful desktop computers, to no many people using simple devices using online software again.
i think it makes perfect sense.
you should only use what you need.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue May 10 2022 03:22 pm
Yeah, there's always some misfit trying to use their system is a way that breaks things. At a previous site we had to lock down a user's profile s the y couldn't change things enoughto get in trouble. When they would complain
i someone is at a desk. you have to watch them.
there will be some funny business going on.
my friend is an it manager and they have this software that shows all the us
this dude got in trouble and they watched him delete his emails and try to c they track when they're idle, what programs are open, what emails they send
at my job as an electronics tech we had an engineer who would sit by himself he was stupid and didn't realize my desk was right behind his.
he was trying to break the computer by restarting it. either hardware, the O
he stopped doing it. later on i helpd out in another department and came ba ve had a camera on him all day.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Moondog on Wed May 11 2022 06:53 am
Gary Kildall, the co-host with the beard, is the guy who famously
missed an appointment with IBM and missed the opportunity to
sell CPM/86 to them for the IBM PC.
he didn't miss it. his wife was going to handle the meeting.
he was on company business at another location.
His wife didn't want to sign the standard NDA without her husband. she shou ibm would have just bought them out. i'm not sure if that's what they wante
His wife didn't want to sign the standard NDA without her husband.
she
shou ibm would have just bought them out. i'm not sure if that's what they wante
Correct. Folklore is he picked that day to go out flying his plane.
he had
flown to meet a customer earlier and met with IBM later. Part of the NDA back then included disavowment of any meetings or deals. Gates could move faster and sweetened the deal with undercutting DRI's pricing because he had previously worked on creating IBM's BIOS and overheard things involved in the next step of development.
When a pc was treated like an remote island, you need all the resources to be onhand. A terminals' apps and outside communications came in the form of a big box in the basement, and allowed others to leave internal mail or send ort broadcast messages to the all the users or just one user. Users were locked down from using external devices that could introduce a virus.
Chromebooks and Android desktops are great if you have the bandwidth. Again, apps are updated and managed from the source. Cloud storage allows for you to damage your device and not worry about lost data.
Aside from needing enough bandwidth, one thing with Chromebooks & similar th
Aside from needing enough bandwidth, one thing with Chromebooks &
similar th
I manage just shy of 1k Chromebooks at work. They will, indeed, function without a 'Net connection, although you do need to have cached your documents locally first. This is not the default behaviour, though.
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to MRO on Wed May 18 2022 09:38 pm
When a pc was treated like an remote island, you need all the resources be onhand. A terminals' apps and outside communications came in the for of a big box in the basement, and allowed others to leave internal mail send ort broadcast messages to the all the users or just one user. User were locked down from using external devices that could introduce a vir
Chromebooks and Android desktops are great if you have the bandwidth. Again, apps are updated and managed from the source. Cloud storage allo for you to damage your device and not worry about lost data.
Aside from needing enough bandwidth, one thing with Chromebooks & similar th y to do what I want to do.
Nightfox
I thought pretty much all the software they ran was web-based though. Even
Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
Aside from needing enough bandwidth, one thing with Chromebooks &
similar that totally rely on online apps is if the connection is lost, then you can't do any work.
That is why so much effort is put into hardening business networks. Several schools have moved to Chromebooks, and I know of one major appliance manufacturer that dumped MS Office in favor of Google apps. That was a bold move, mainly because of users being more familair with Office all these years rather than bandwidth.
Users being more familiar with Office than bandwidth? I'm not sure what you
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Fri May 20 2022 02:02 am
That is why so much effort is put into hardening business networks. Several schools have moved to Chromebooks, and I know of one major appliance manufacturer that dumped MS Office in favor of Google apps. T was a bold move, mainly because of users being more familair with Offic all these years rather than bandwidth.
Users being more familiar with Office than bandwidth? I'm not sure what you
Nightfox
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Nightfox to Moondog on Sat May 21 2022 10:38 am
Users being more familiar with Office than bandwidth? I'm not sure what
I think Moondog was saying that the reason for it being a bold move was more do with user unfamiliarity, rather than the need for more bandwidth.
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knightwise wrote to Divarin <=-
I was wondering if "Mutiny" was indeed a BBS service. Now I
understand. I love love love that show! y
Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Kaelon to All on Sun May 01 2022 14:54:45
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
Hustler wrote to Joe Phigan <=-
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
Absolutley loved it! Best TV Series I've seen in a very long time.
Bindge watched most of it.
Hustler wrote to Joe Phigan <=-
Has anyone else here seen it? What do you think about the show?
Absolutley loved it! Best TV Series I've seen in a very long time. Bindge watched most of it.
I just re-watched the tail end of season 4. Great show.
I want a present-day season 5.
... Abandon desire
i would prefer they stuck with the small jumps in time, and show the later half of the 90's after the dot com boom and when file sharing services were hot. Remember Pointcast? Companies hated it because it consumed so much bandwith. Distributed computing was also new, so there's lots to play with
Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 05 2022 12:41 pm
i would prefer they stuck with the small jumps in time, and show the late half of the 90's after the dot com boom and when file sharing services w hot. Remember Pointcast? Companies hated it because it consumed so much bandwith. Distributed computing was also new, so there's lots to play wi
i dont know of any company that used pointcast. i looked it up and internet
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Re: Re: Halt and Catch Fire
By: Moondog to poindexter FORTRAN on Mon Sep 05 2022 12:41 pm
hot. Remember Pointcast? Companies hated it because it consumed so much bandwith. Distributed computing was also new, so there's lots to play with
i dont know of any company that used pointcast. i looked it up and internet sez it's like a screensaver that showed real time info.
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