What are all of you watching?
Andeddu wrote to All <=-
I am presently watching The Book of Boba Fett on Disney+ which is
What are all of you watching?
Digital Man wrote to Andeddu <=-
What are all of you watching?
I'm enjoying 1883.
What are all of you watching?
Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
Started on Peacemaker this past weekend, far better than it has any
right to be, but my expectations were incredibly low.
On 1/28/22 06:06, Andeddu wrote:
What are all of you watching?
Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of
the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or
something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.
Started on Peacemaker this past weekend, far better than it has any
right to be, but my expectations were incredibly low.
I also watch Rookie, Blue Bloods, Superman & Lois and a handful of others. --
Also watching Book of Boba Fett, episode 5 is the only one I've really
liked so far, which was basically an episode of Mandalorean. TBH, I
think they neutered Boba too much, or at least didn't show the
transition very well in the earlier episodes... If they'd done more of
the flashbacks in chronological order, with "5 years earlier" or
something similar when he came out of the sarlac pitt (sp) it would have been better. The editing isn't as good as it could/should be.
Right-on. So bummed what the series turned into, the myth of Fett was
much more interesting than this stuff. But yeah, last week's EP --
basically S3 EP1 of The Mandolorian -- was pretty good!
Andeddu wrote to Tracker1 <=-
second. Some of the decisions in the earlier episodes are strange too, such as the augmented Vespa gang who couldn't have looked more
ridiculous and out of place in a Star Wars production.
Kitted-up vespa speeders on a rim world that's obviously at the tail end of the supply runs, based on the overall look and feel of Tatooine.
I would like to see Luke's speeder appear in the background somewhere.
Andeddu wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
The entire American Grafitti vibe I got from those Vespas was so
jarring. The gang felt like they were shoe-horned in also... I could
have done without them and their weird outfits.
It reminded me of the William Gibson/Neal Stephenson cyberpunk worlds, or if one of them had written "Hackers". Again, doesn't fit into the rim world trope.
After watching Episode IX, I am not even sure Disney considered Episode VI canon!
I would be surprised if Disney gave consideration to anything in TCW as it would appear most of the writers have only the most rudimentary understanding of the universe and characters. There is talk of Bib Fortuna being the former daimyo after Jabba the Hutt... but that's all we hear of it.
The last episode of TBOBF was a massive let down. I would say that only 3/7 episodes were good with the rest being extremely mediocre.
What are all of you watching?
Currently on season 2 of Ozark on Netflix. Outstanding.
Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-
What are all of you watching?
Currently on season 2 of Ozark on Netflix. Outstanding.
I kinda binged the seven episodes of Ozark S4 P1 the last three
nights. Amazing. A great continuation of a convoluted twisty
story.
Yes, it's been very enjoyable, with some unexpected twists. I'm now finished to the same point with it as you are.
Any idea when S4 P2 is due out?
Ogg wrote to Gamgee <=-
Yes, it's been very enjoyable, with some unexpected twists. I'm now finished to the same point with it as you are.
Any idea when S4 P2 is due out?
Not really. Even Jason Bateman (as one of the Executive
Producers) ..just states "Sometime very soon."
If he wants the show to qualify as a contender for one of the
tv/film awards, it has to be released on or before May
sometime.
The meetup between Javi and Ruth ought to be pretty intense.
After watching Episode IX, I am not even sure Disney considered Episode VI canon!
Maybe not! That really would not surprise me. People thought that JJ Abrams ruined the prequels... I don't think they were ready for what Disney might have had in mind.
I had heard that, in TBOBF, Bobba Fett supposedly dethrowned Bib Fortuna before taking over Jabba's palace. If that is not the case, then maybe
they did retain some of the litterary canon. In one of the books, it is
Disney have retconned that as, if you recall The Mandalorian S2 finale, Boba Fett shoots him in the face whilst he is on the throne and usurps him as the Daimyo.
Disney have retconned that as, if you recall The Mandalorian S2 finale, Boba Fett shoots him in the face whilst he is on the throne and usurps him as the Daimyo.
Ahh, so it happened in that show. I unfortunately don't have Disney+ so I have missed a lot of their retconning. Maybe that is a good thing. :)
I have no doubt that it's a good thing. If you are able to stay away from anything that is Disney Star Wars you will have a much higher opinion of the
whole franchise. The old expanded universe is much superior to the new canon.
Ahh, so it happened in that show. I unfortunately don't have Disney+ so I have missed a lot of their retconning. Maybe that is a good thing. :)
I have no doubt that it's a good thing. If you are able to stay away from anything that is Disney Star Wars you will have a much higher opinion of the whole franchise. The old expanded universe is much superior to the new canon.
The Mandalorian, created under Disney rule, is excellent though. Mainly as it doesn't try to just do Star Wars all over again.
i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.
Re: TBOBF
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:17 pm
i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.
Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than the OT in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out show after show to see what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.
Re: TBOBF
By: MRO to Andeddu on Mon Feb 21 2022 06:17 pm
i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.
Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than the O in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out show after show to se what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.
i'm talking about everything he did starting with fucking with the movies in the 90s to how they are now. at THAT time the original saga was great. the dialog sucked but it wasnt bad thanks to studio intervention and his wife helping out. that's why she got a ton of money in the divorce.
when lucas had full control, he got real weird and messed up everything. I don't like any of the newer starwars movies. i dont even like the disney movies. they are super super fast and superficial.
lucas used his starwars stuff sparingly because he was a shut in all those years and decided to build ILM. he also was making a lot of money each year just riding it out.
it's fitting that he sold to disney because he was like walt disney.
but the real reason he sold was because he thought the world was going to end in 2012. dude's a delusional nut.
The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.
The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Dark Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fast and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.
I quite like the remastered versions of the OT because they were carried out tastefully. Continuity issues such as Jabba the Hut being a human being in Episode IV were also fixed.
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.
I quite like the remastered versions of the OT because they were carried out tastefully. Continuity issues such as Jabba the Hut being a human being in Episode IV were also fixed.
Hahaha, I never heard about Lucas being into astrology and numerology... I guess it's just a Hollywood thing.
The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.
The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Dark Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fast and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think there is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did that happen?
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed to be human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away, what are the chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire Strikes Back where C-3PO refers to Luke Skylwalker (I think) as a human.. I wondered what the story was about how humans came from that galaxy to our galaxy.
Nightfox
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big deal.
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did
that happen?
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed
to be human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away,
what are the chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire
Earth, to my knowledge, is not a place that's noted in the galaxy maps in the Star Wars universe... I've always thought of it as an alternate universe or something rather than one parallel to ours.
Re: TBOBF
By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm
The prequel had more means and better production, but I would not label the writting as clearly superior myself.
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems weird to me.
The original series was more serious and conveyed this idea that the Da Side had real teeth. The prequel was more cartoonish, and a bit like Fa and Furious in Space at times. Nothing wrong with that, but I think the is a qualitative difference in the style of both trilogies and that the prequel tried to have more flash at the expense of less athmosphere.
I had the same thoughts. The explanation and reton with the midichlorians s hich actually seemed to start with Return of the Jedi in the original trilog
When the Star Wars 1-6 set was first released on blu-ray (around 2011 or 201 t last I checked, they were around $25-$30 apiece, which seemed a little ste
Nightfox
Re: TBOBF
By: Andeddu to MRO on Wed Feb 23 2022 05:29 pm
I quite like the remastered versions of the OT because they were carrie out tastefully. Continuity issues such as Jabba the Hut being a human being in Episode IV were also fixed.
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did that happ
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed to be h lker (I think) as a human.. I wondered what the story was about how humans
Nightfox
Re: TBOBF
By: Arelor to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:42 pm
The retcon with the mirichlorians (or whatever they are called) seems wei to me.
yeah that was strange.
and jarjar was bad.
it was just overthought and had no soul.
the old one had soul, even though it was full of holes and issues.
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big
When ANH was filmed, there is a scene that is filmed where Jabba is waiting o utside of Han's ship asking for his money. This was filmed with a human actor playing Jabba as originally planned. This was cut from the original release, then put back in the digitally enhanced re-releases, except the CGI version of Jabba is overlayed on the actor. They also had to edit when Ha n walks behind Jabba so it appears he steps on his tail rather than walk through the spot his tail should be.
Re: TBOBF
By: MRO to Arelor on Wed Feb 23 2022 08:28 pm
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. b deal.
Episodes 7-9 are all special effects with nothing else to offer.
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in t cinema.
I had first seen the original movie long ago on TV when I was young, so it's been a while. I don't remember seeing that. Interesting.
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
Re: Star Wars
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 04:57 pm
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did
that happen?
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
I had first seen the original movie long ago on TV when I was young, so it's been a while. I don't remember seeing that. Interesting.
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed
to be human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away,
what are the chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire
Star Wars wouldn't need to take place in a parallel universe (I've never actually thought of that). Star Wars takes place in a different galaxy, so
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space.
big
midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.
More information here:
https://dirkdeklein.net/2018/02/17/that-time-jabba-the-hut-was-jabba-the-hum an/
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midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring
the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.
Re: Star Wars
By: Nightfox to Andeddu on Wed Feb 23 2022 01:03 pm
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did that happen?
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed to b human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away, what are chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire Strikes Back wher C-3PO refers to Luke Skylwalker (I think) as a human.. I wondered what t story was about how humans came from that galaxy to our galaxy.
Nightfox
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
Earth, to my knowledge, is not a place that's noted in the galaxy maps in th Star Wars universe... I've always thought of it as an alternate universe or something rather than one parallel to ours.
Re: Star Wars
By: Andeddu to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 04:57 pm
I don't remember Jabba the Hut ever appaering as human.. When did
that happen?
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in t cinema.
I had first seen the original movie long ago on TV when I was young, so it's
I've also wondered if the 'humans' in Star Wars were really supposed
to be human. If it takes place a long time ago in a galaxy far away,
what are the chances they'd be human? But there's a scene in Empire
Earth, to my knowledge, is not a place that's noted in the galaxy maps the Star Wars universe... I've always thought of it as an alternate universe or something rather than one parallel to ours.
Star Wars wouldn't need to take place in a parallel universe (I've never act at perhaps a group of humans in the Star Wars universe had possibly traveled
Nightfox
Re: Star Wars
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Thu Feb 24 2022 12:12 pm
When ANH was filmed, there is a scene that is filmed where Jabba is waiting o utside of Han's ship asking for his money. This was filmed wi a human actor playing Jabba as originally planned. This was cut from th original release, then put back in the digitally enhanced re-releases, except the CGI version of Jabba is overlayed on the actor. They also ha to edit when Ha n walks behind Jabba so it appears he steps on his tail rather than walk through the spot his tail should be.
Ah, I remember hearing about that, and I remember seeing that scene with the
Nightfox
Re: TBOBF
By: Moondog to MRO on Thu Feb 24 2022 12:17 pm
i dont care about special effects. woooo! exploding thing in space. big
midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring th force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms that attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruine the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it to flo through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.
he could have made it into some brain advancement instead of bugs in the blo
--- MOONDOG wrote ---
midi chlorians was a bad way to add a scientific approach to measuring
the force. If it were up to me, I would've explained them as organisms th are attracted to use users rather than something that makes them. That ruined the concept that anyone can become a force user if they allowed it flow through them by clearing their mind of other distractions.
The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.
I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...
I forgot what it is called, but there is a phenomenon where people whave seen the outtake material at a leter time, but recall seeing it in the theatres.
Star Wars wouldn't need to take place in a parallel universe (I've never actually thought of that). Star Wars takes place in a different galaxy, so naturally, Earth wouldn't be on the galaxy maps. If they really are meant to be human, I was thinking that perhaps a group of humans in the Star Wars universe had possibly traveled to Earth and settled here.
Ah, I remember hearing about that, and I remember seeing that scene with the CGI Jabba when the edited versions were released. Somehow I thought someone was saying there was a released version that didn't have the CGI Jabba, showing Jabba as a human.
The Luke-Leia-Solo chemistry is just better than the ones the main characters in the prequel get (which is not saying much anyway).
Characters and character development just work better in the originals even if the plot is simplistic adventure IMO.
i think the deal is they had a human actor to play jabba but it was cut out. you may have seen another movie with this deleted scene removed.
or it's a mandella effect thing.
they cgi'd in a little jaba in the 90s which i found shitty.
The mistake is explaining it at all beyond what Yoda said in Empire.
I don't know why kids today are so hung up on everything being explained...
I forgot what it is called, but there is a phenomenon where people whave seen the outtake material at a leter time, but recall seeing it in the theatres. Since it was cut and abandoned, there was no possible way for it to have been released. A similar experiment was conducted where a group of people sat
down as individuals and watched a staged even that was intended to look like security camera footage. There were several smaller story arcs going on with people in the parking lot, but the main event was an incident beween two drive rs fighting over a parking spot. The video is the constant or control, and the variable was ringer in the bunch that was seeding fake inofrmation or changing arounf vehicle colors or orders of the events. when interviewed alone, each person was asked what they saw, and some of them claimed they saw or noticed the smaller details the ringer introduced tot he story. When
given a chance to view the video again, they would claim the video was edited.
Andeddu wrote to Nightfox <=-
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a
man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in
the cinema.
Earth, to my knowledge, is not a place that's noted in the galaxy maps
in the Star Wars universe... I've always thought of it as an alternate universe or something rather than one parallel to ours.
Re: Star Wars
By: Moondog to Andeddu on Fri Feb 25 2022 07:41 pm
I forgot what it is called, but there is a phenomenon where people whave seen the outtake material at a leter time, but recall seeing it in the theatres.
https://www.verywellmind.com/what-is-the-mandela-effect-4589394
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Re: TBOBF
By: the doctor to MOONDOG on Fri Feb 25 2022 12:03
pm
They almost retconned it in the Disney trilogy after speculation that Rey was a nobody with no special lineage. This was prior to Abrams deciding at the 11th hour that she'd be the grand-daughter of Emperor Palaptine.
i think lucas drove starwars into the ground.
Are you referring to the prequel trilogy? I thought it was better than
the OT in terms of writing. Lucas was good because he used the Star
Wars license sparingly compared to Disney who are just churning out
show after show to see what sticks. They've ultimately devalued the franchise.
I have a recollection of watching the original 1977 movie and seeing a man portraying Jabba in the hanger scene with Han Solo. The scene was definitely updated with CGI in the 1997 re-release which I watched in the cinema.
I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add
value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it
flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just
bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I
think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through
the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).
I think that Clone Wars adds a lot of context to the prequels that add value to the series.. if you watch the first 6 in "machete" order, it flows a lot better. 7-9, may as well skip, the story telling is just bad... the visuals are cool, but it's just not Star Wars... Clone Wars
and Rebels were far better... Resistance I just didn't care for, and I think they dropped the ball on The Bad Batch by infantalizing the kid
too much, she was formidable in the first episode, then they
figuratively neutered her. She should have just remained capable through the series, possibly even becoming a team leader, still flawed and inexperienced (not like they did with wesley crusher in stng).
The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first 6 or Clone Wars.
It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.
I still do want to see Rogue One.
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I still do want to see Rogue One.
Rogue One works well as a stand alone story in the SW universe as well as a pre-cursor to ANH
The last time I binged Star Wars, I watched the first three, the Clone Wars movie, and then the original three plus #7. Sort of like the first three
are not on par with the original 3, #7 was not on par with any of the first
6 or Clone Wars.
It did not motivate me enough to watch 8 or 9, although I did watch Solo.
I still do want to see Rogue One.
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