What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and why?
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to All on Thu Aug 08 2019 17:16:32
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and why?
original DOS Telix for all OSes... because it was the best of the ones i use 30 years ago... there are numerous others available these days and they're a pretty good, too... just none of them are Telix ;)
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and why?
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating
system, and why?
My favorites were Telix and Terminate when I ran DOS, now a days I mostly use Netrunner under Windows. Syncterm is good as well. I liked Telix alot and used it for years but switched to Terminate because it could generate and save passwords and do auto-logins if I remember correctly.
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to All on Thu Aug 08 2019 17:16:32
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and why?
original DOS Telix for all OSes... because it was the best of the ones i used 30 years ago... there are numerous others available these days and they're all pretty good, too... just none of them are Telix ;)
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Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to All on Thu Aug 08 2019 05:16 pm
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and why?
My favorites were Telix and Terminate when I ran DOS, now a days I mostly use Netrunner under Windows. Syncterm is good as well. I liked Telix alot and used it for years but switched to Terminate because it could generate and save passwords and do auto-logins if I remember correctly.
Immortal
... The art of communicating with a woman is to hear what she doesn't say.
i like syncterm but netrunner looks better when connected i find..unless im missing a setting
On 08-09-19 20:33, Oderus wrote to Immortal <=-
i like syncterm but netrunner looks better when connected i
find..unless im missing a setting
On 08-09-19 21:32, Digital Man wrote to Oderus <=-
If they're both doing ANSI right, they should look nearly identical - except maybe different fonts or shades of colors.
Digital Man wrote to Oderus <=-
i like syncterm but netrunner looks better when connected i find..unless im missing a setting
If they're both doing ANSI right, they should look nearly
identical - except maybe different fonts or shades of colors.
Perhaps you could capture some screen-shot comparisons so we can
know what you're referring to more precisely.
On 08-09-19 21:32, Digital Man wrote to Oderus <=-
If they're both doing ANSI right, they should look nearly identical - except maybe different fonts or shades of colors.
From memory, one of Netrunner's features is that it renders the fonts better, which results in cleaner looking text, expecially when the terminal window is scaled up.
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Immortal on Fri Aug 09 2019 08:33 pm
i like syncterm but netrunner looks better when connected i find..unless im missing a setting
If they're both doing ANSI right, they should look nearly identical - except maybe different fonts or shades of colors.
Perhaps you could capture some screen-shot comparisons so we can know what you're referring to more precisely.
digital man
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Re: Terminal Applications
By: Digital Man to Oderus on Fri Aug 09 2019 21:32:32
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Immortal on Fri Aug 09 2019 08:33 pm
i like syncterm but netrunner looks better when connected i find..unless im missing a setting
If they're both doing ANSI right, they should look nearly identical - except maybe different fonts or shades of colors.
Perhaps you could capture some screen-shot comparisons so we can know what you're referring to more precisely.
digital man
This Is Spinal Tap quote #40:
Morty the Mime: Come on, don't talk back, mime is money, come on, move it. Norco, CA WX: 69.4�F, 71.0% humidity, 1 mph E wind, 0.00 inches rain/24hrs
Well, I did a screenshot comparison between Syncterm, NetRunner, and MagiTerm, just now. Magiterm and NetRunner look indistinguishable from one another, and syncterm looks blurry. I can get them to look similar if I zoom in on the screenshot of netrunner to 200% and syncterm to 588%, then they look very close to the same. Unfortunately I cannot attach the screenshots here, where would you like them uploaded?
Actually, I uploaded them to Amigacity, which I consider my Home BBS, in the Miscellaneous file area. File names are MagiTerm.png, syncterm.png, and NetRun.png
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and why?
On 08-10-19 10:47, Digital Man wrote to Vk3jed <=-
That might be an SDL 1.2 (SyncTERM uses) versus SDL 2.0 (Netrunner
uses) thing.
"NetRunner is a telnet client originally developed in the late 90s in sync with the release of Windows XP. It was intended to be a console telnet
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Digital Man to Oderus on Fri Aug 09 2019 21:32:32
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Immortal on Fri Aug 09 2019 08:33 pm
i like syncterm but netrunner looks better when connected i find..unless im missing a setting
If they're both doing ANSI right, they should look nearly identical - except maybe different fonts or shades of colors.
Perhaps you could capture some screen-shot comparisons so we can know what you're referring to more precisely.
Well, I did a screenshot comparison between Syncterm, NetRunner, and MagiTerm, just now. Magiterm and NetRunner look indistinguishable from one another, and syncterm looks blurry. I can get them to look similar if I zoom in on the screenshot of netrunner to 200% and syncterm to 588%, then they look very close to the same. Unfortunately I cannot attach the screenshots here, where would you like them uploaded?
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Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to All on Thu Aug 08 2019 17:16:32
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and
?What about terminate?
original DOS Telix for all OSes... because it was the best of the ones
i used 30 years ago... there are numerous others available these days
and they're all pretty good, too... just none of them are Telix ;)
On 08-11-19 11:02, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Vk3jed to Digital Man on Sun Aug 11 2019 03:32 pm
"NetRunner is a telnet client originally developed in the late 90s in sync with the release of Windows XP. It was intended to be a console telnet
Late 90s, and Windows XP? Windows XP was released in 2001.
"NetRunner is a telnet client originally developed in the late 90s
in sync with the release of Windows XP. It was intended to be a
console telnet
Don't shoot the messenger. That was a direct copy and paste from the Netrunner website. ;)
Late 90s, and Windows XP? Windows XP was released in 2001.
Don't shoot the messenger. That was a direct copy and paste from the Netrunner website. ;)
original DOS Telix for all OSes... because it was the best of the ones i used 30 years ago... there are numerous others available these days and they're all pretty good, too... just none of them are Telix ;)
What about terminate?
On 08-13-19 10:03, HusTler wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Sir.. in the future please supply the proper citations and refererences when you post here. There are too many critics just
waiting to bitch about something. You supplied quotes which is not good enough. You need quotes, citations and referneces when posting on
Dovenet. Oh.. and don't forget to have fun. ;-)
On 08-13-19 09:42, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I figured you probably didn't write that (I noticed the quotes), I was just saying it seemed like an odd thing to say. :)
Rampage wrote to Bbsing.Bbs <=-
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Bbsing.Bbs to Rampage on Mon Aug 12 2019 17:10:00
original DOS Telix for all OSes... because it was the best of the ones i used 30 years ago... there are numerous others available these days and they're all pretty good, too... just none of them are Telix ;)
What about terminate?
it ain't telix ;)
I have no idea how I got my hands on it, and then later entering the workforce getting a registered copy and playing with newer versions. Procomplus had some great features, but I don't remember it being strictly DOS mode, and telix was.
Back in the 1990's, I used Telemate, even registered it legally. I also
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Sam to Oderus on Sun Aug 18 2019 04:52 pm
Back in the 1990's, I used Telemate, even registered it legally. I also
Was there a way to register it illegally? :P
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to All on Thu Aug 08 2019 05:16 pm
Back in the 1990's, I used Telemate, even registered it legally. I also tried Procomm Plus, but just wasn't as happy as with Telemate. I played around with GT PowerComm, Terminate and a couple of others. But I always went back to Telemate.
When I got a decent computer and had Windows 3.11 going, I started using Procomm Plus 2.0 and barely looked back at Telemate. Then when Procomm Plus 4.8 (final version) came out, I started using that and still install it on every PC I have.
However, as I write this, I am on a DOSBox, and typing this up, again, in Telemate 4.20 registered in my name :)
Jeff in Australia.
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and why?
What are your favorite terminal programs, for which operating system, and why?
As a teen, my favorite terminal by far was ANSIterm for the Atari ST.
The Atari ST had a few disadvantages for BBSing.
First, it had its own character set. Most of the high-ascii characters were Hebrew letters instead of block characters like in PC ANSI.
Second, the ST only offered 16 colors in low resolution (40 column mode). The ST's 80-column medium resolution was limited to 4 colors.
Third, the ST standard was VT-52 emulation, rather than VT-100 or 102.
Many ST terminal programs offered some form of PC ANSI mode. They'd use custom character sets to display the special characters. But the place where they always fell down was the colors.
Not ANSIterm. It ran in low resolution so it could display all 16 colors. Then they chopped the characters in half to 3 pixels wide, so that 80 would fit on the screen. Sound wonky? To me, it was beautiful. I could see ANSI art!
Anyway, I loved ANSIterm and used it from 1992 until the early 2000s once I stopped BBSing on my Atari. A few years ago, I re-acquired an Atari ST, and I do occasionally use ANSIterm today. It's kinda fun watching the Atari try to display my parallax ANSI animations (before eventually being overwhelmed and crashing).
I've written more about it here: https://breakintochat.com/blog/2014/03/12/hearing-from-my-software-heroes/
--Josh
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BiC -=- http://breakintochat.com -=- bbs wiki and blog
I love this story :) Goes to show, you don't need perfection to have a good experience. I don't remember all the quirks, but there were many in JRComm on the Amiga, which actually wasn't as good as NovaTerm on the C64. 80 Columns on a c64! Good times indeed.
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Kirkman on Thu Sep 12 2019 07:57:15
I love this story :) Goes to show, you don't need perfection to have a good experience. I don't remember all the quirks, but there were many in JRComm on the Amiga, which actually wasn't as good as NovaTerm on the C64. 80 Columns on a c64! Good times indeed.
Oh? is NOVA the only terminal program that offers 80 col? I realize that program has a bunch of versions, but I have not heard of 80col on commodore 64.
What about a commodore 16 ? Ever heard of using a terminal program on that model?
=> POROSZ <=I Never had a c16 but I know the vic20 could
Not ANSIterm. It ran in low resolution so it could display all 16 colors. Then they chopped the characters in half to 3 pixels wide, so that 80 would fit on the screen. Sound wonky? To me, it was beautiful. I could see ANSI art!
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Porosz to Oderus on Thu Sep 12 2019 15:26:13
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Kirkman on Thu Sep 12 2019 07:57:15
I love this story :) Goes to show, you don't need perfection to have a good experience. I don't remember all the quirks, but there were many JRComm on the Amiga, which actually wasn't as good as NovaTerm on the C64. 80 Columns on a c64! Good times indeed.
Oh? is NOVA the only terminal program that offers 80 col? I realize t program has a bunch of versions, but I have not heard of 80col on commodo 64.
What about a commodore 16 ? Ever heard of using a terminal program on t model?
=> POROSZ <=I Never had a c16 but I know the vic20 could
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Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Porosz on Fri Sep 13 2019 05:26 pm
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Porosz to Oderus on Thu Sep 12 2019 15:26:13
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Kirkman on Thu Sep 12 2019 07:57:15
I love this story :) Goes to show, you don't need perfection to have a good experience. I don't remember all the quirks, but there were many JRComm on the Amiga, which actually wasn't as good as NovaTerm on the C64. 80 Columns on a c64! Good times indeed.
Oh? is NOVA the only terminal program that offers 80 col? I realize t program has a bunch of versions, but I have not heard of 80col on commodo 64.
What about a commodore 16 ? Ever heard of using a terminal program on t model?
=> POROSZ <=I Never had a c16 but I know the vic20 could
I have a vic20 right now. I used the original VIcTerm to call a bbs on
a 300bps vicmodem... The vic natively supports 23 i believe, but the
term cassette had a c64 version on the back that supports 40.
I don't think there was any 80col support for the vic20. And I heard
there was some other program that would get you to 40 on a vic but
can't recall how it accomlpished it. I can honestly say bbsing appeared
to be no fun at 32...
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Ed Vance to Zombie Mambo on Fri Sep 20 2019 09:13 am
Whoah Compuserve on a C64! Holy cow...I did that, back in
about
1984 as well.
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Zombie Mambo to Oderus on Thu Sep 19 2019 03:17 pm
Oddly enough I'M using Novaterm right now, in 80 column mode in Vice C128 mode. And also using Jim Brain's tcpser.
About the only thing that upsets NovaTerm are the little avatar icons on Synchronet..they always reset everything to the top for some reason.
But still...80 columns on 8-bit. And I love the font.
Whoah Compuserve on a C64! Holy cow...I did that, back in
about
1984 as well.
Wasn't that Quantum Link? A 300 baud modem included 60 free minutes. :)
I recall seeing a program that emulated 80 columns on a C64. It looked horrible and worked with very few applications.
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: echto to Chickenhead on Fri Sep 20 2019 06:09 pm
Whoah Compuserve on a C64! Holy cow...I did that, back in
about
1984 as well.
Wasn't that Quantum Link? A 300 baud modem included 60 free minutes. :)
Yea man. Most modems came with free hours for Compuserve, AOL and don't forget
Sierra
Games. There were others but memory fails me right now.
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Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Ed Vance to Zombie Mambo on Fri Sep 20 2019 09:13 am
Whoah Compuserve on a C64! Holy cow...I did that, back in about 1984
as well.
And it cost a FORTUNE. I had one of those awful 300 baud cartridge
modems for my C64...you had to dial by hand and hit the switch when the tones appeared. And to make it worse, you were signing on to one of
those DATAPAC nodes that cost like $1.00 per minute (which was a lot in those days).
I remember participating in a "CB chat" on Compuserve with Richard
"Lord British" Garriott, talking about his upcoming Ultima IV. Great memories, although the charges were horrible.
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Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Chickenhead to Ed Vance on Fri Sep 20 2019 05:16 pm
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Ed Vance to Zombie Mambo on Fri Sep 20 2019 09:13 am
Whoah Compuserve on a C64! Holy cow...I did that, back in
about
1984 as well.
Wasn't that Quantum Link? A 300 baud modem included 60 free minutes. :)
@VIA: VERT/CAVEBBS
@MSGID: <[email protected]>
@REPLY: <[email protected]>
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Ed Vance to Zombie Mambo on Fri Sep 20 2019 09:13 am
I recall seeing a program that emulated 80 columns on a C64. It looked horrible and worked with very few applications.
Yea man. Most modems came with free hours for Compuserve, AOL and don't forgetI recall the stickers on the modem boxes advertising the free time. Ooooo 60 minutes! lol I worked at Babbage's in the local neighborhood mall and bought my first C64 modem there. Good times.
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Porosz on Fri Sep 13 2019 05:26 pm
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Porosz to Oderus on Thu Sep 12 2019 15:26:13
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Kirkman on Thu Sep 12 2019 07:57:15
I love this story :) Goes to show, you don't need perfection to have a good experience. I don't remember all the quirks, but there were many JRComm on the Amiga, which actually wasn't as good as NovaTerm on the C64. 80 Columns on a c64! Good times indeed.
Oh? is NOVA the only terminal program that offers 80 col? I realize t program has a bunch of versions, but I have not heard of 80col on commodo 64.
What about a commodore 16 ? Ever heard of using a terminal program on t model?
=> POROSZ <=I Never had a c16 but I know the vic20 could
I have a vic20 right now. I used the original VIcTerm to call a bbs on a 300bps vicmodem... The vic natively supports 23 i believe, but the term cassette had a c64 version on the back that supports 40.
I don't think there was any 80col support for the vic20. And I heard there was some other program that would get you to 40 on a vic but can't recall how it accomlpished it. I can honestly say bbsing appeared to be no fun at 32...
You'd have to go serious old school text only college type bbs systems that were short and sweet with vertical menus
B..Bulletins
C..Chat
L..Logoff
M..Messages
That's about it! :)
Thanks,
Zombie Mambo
But 1200 is FOUR TIMES FASTER than My VIC 300 Modem connected at, isn't it?
When I got a 486 in 1994 the P-B Modem would connect at 2400 until I got the USR Modem that could connect up to 28.8K .
Yeah either that or try calling an actual commodore 64 bbs maybe? Then again who knows if the term you have for vic20 will do "commodore graphics"
I was never a fan of bbs's that utilized the built in features only supported by the computer they ran on. TI also had built in sound and graphics (yes you could play a full song on your bbs, and display real graphics) but only TI callers could see/hear them.
That's what made ANSI so great.
Re: Re: Terminal ApplicationsI think there was more than one that did 80-colums on the c-64. I used to use VIP-term...it was quite hard to read.
Although I still think the CompuServe CB Simulator was pretty cool...but I hadn't learned of IRC yet. Not for many years!
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Chickenhead to Ed Vance on Fri Sep 27 2019 04:37 pm
Although I still think the CompuServe CB Simulator was pretty cool...but hadn't learned of IRC yet. Not for many years!
Ahhh. "CB Simulator" I haven't heard that in decades but remember it well. fact I learned about IRC in "CB Simulator". At the time I thought the only w to access this stuff was only through Compuserve. What did AOL call it's cha rooms? Anyone reme
people could also access cb chat/compuserve with another client that made it more like irc. it allowed them to log the chat and do other stuff.
i was kicked off aol like 10x.
all that stuff was so expensive to use back then.
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i was kicked off aol like 10x.
all that stuff was so expensive to use back then.You must have hurt somebody's feelings ;-)
Yes it was expensive but I do remember having a load of disks with free hour Family members would get them in the mail and they give them to me. Nobody i my family had a computer. I don't remember ever paying for any of those services. I think the required a credit card?
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Zombie Mambo on Sun Sep 22 2019 05:26 pm
Yeah either that or try calling an actual commodore 64 bbs maybe? Then again who knows if the term you have for vic20 will do "commodore graphics"
I was never a fan of bbs's that utilized the built in features only supported by the computer they ran on. TI also had built in sound and graphics (yes you could play a full song on your bbs, and display real graphics) but only TI callers could see/hear them.
That's what made ANSI so great.
But there is something to be said about those old text-only, non color bbs's of the early 80's that was so magical and exciting to me. They were all so different from each other. Sysops put a lot of thought into their theme, menu layouts, etc.
Once ibm/pc became the norm, and ANSI became the norm, there was a period where all bbs's seemed to look/feel the same to me and it got boring.
Thanks,
Zombie Mambo
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Zombie Mambo to Oderus on Tue Sep 24 2019 02:28 pm
I was never a fan of bbs's that utilized the built in features only supported by the computer they ran on. TI also had built in sound and graphics (yes you could play a full song on your bbs, and display real graphics) but only TI callers could see/hear them.
That's what made ANSI so great.
I agree.
There were also some special terminal programs for BBS door games that would h a sound card. If you were playing that game on a BBS, the LOD terminal pr omething similar to play sounds (and SyncTerm supports Operation Overkill 2'
Nightfox
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Chickenhead to Ed Vance on Fri Sep 27 2019 04:37 pm
Although I still think the CompuServe CB Simulator was pretty cool...but hadn't learned of IRC yet. Not for many years!
Ahhh. "CB Simulator" I haven't heard that in decades but remember it well. ber?
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: MRO to HusTler on Fri Sep 27 2019 09:58 pm
people could also access cb chat/compuserve with another client that made more like irc. it allowed them to log the chat and do other stuff.
i was kicked off aol like 10x.
all that stuff was so expensive to use back then.
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You must have hurt somebody's feelings ;-)
Yes it was expensive but I do remember having a load of disks with free hour ired a credit card?
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Zombie Mambo to Oderus on Tue Sep 24 2019 14:28:00
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Zombie Mambo on Sun Sep 22 2019 05:26 pm
Yeah either that or try calling an actual commodore 64 bbs maybe? Then again who knows if the term you have for vic20 will do "commodore graphics"
I was never a fan of bbs's that utilized the built in features only supported by the computer they ran on. TI also had built in sound and graphics (yes you could play a full song on your bbs, and display real graphics) but only TI callers could see/hear them.
That's what made ANSI so great.
But there is something to be said about those old text-only, non color bb of the early 80's that was so magical and exciting to me. They were all s different from each other. Sysops put a lot of thought into their theme, menu layouts, etc.
Once ibm/pc became the norm, and ANSI became the norm, there was a period where all bbs's seemed to look/feel the same to me and it got boring.
Thanks,
Zombie Mambo
Lately I have been trying to call the couple of RIP bbs' available from my amiga, the only problem is.. the rip bbs' I know of that are actually set up for RIP are on alternate ports, and the ripterm for amiga doesn't like the : at the end, so I can't effectively call one, since I won't use Windows. I CA emulate RIPtel in Linux but not everything works properly so I am kind of at stand still on that.
Regards
One of the first door games I remember that had its own terminal (optional) to increase graphic abilities was Global War. I loved that game.
I love this story :) Goes to show, you don't need perfection to have a good experience. I don't remember all the quirks, but there were many in JRComm on the Amiga, which actually wasn't as good as NovaTerm on the C64. 80 Columns on a c64! Good times indeed.
There were also some special terminal programs for BBS door games that would h a sound card. If you were playing that game on a BBS, the LOD terminal pr omething similar to play sounds (and SyncTerm supports Operation Overkill 2'One of the first door games I remember that had its own terminal (optional) to increase graphic abilities was Global War. I loved that game.
AOL 5.0
AOL GOLD!
AOL PREMIUM!
We'd get a disk in the mail like 2 times a month.
Remember when NETZERO first came out?
And JUNO Mail?
Hell, remember WEB-TV !?!?
And JUNO Mail?
One of the first door games I remember that had its own terminal (optional) to increase graphic abilities was Global War. I loved that game.
And JUNO Mail?
I know at least 2 people who still use Juno accounts
Same here. One of my best friends still uses his Juno accountI know at least 2 people who still use Juno accountsAnd JUNO Mail?
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Moondog to Lupine Furmen on Wed Oct 02 2019 11:03 am
And JUNO Mail?
I know at least 2 people who still use Juno accounts
Is it still free?
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: echto to Moondog on Thu Oct 03 2019 12:26 am
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Moondog to Lupine Furmen on Wed Oct 02 2019 11:03 am
And JUNO Mail?
I know at least 2 people who still use Juno accounts
Is it still free?
yes
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Lupine Furmen to Zombie Mambo on Wed Oct 02 2019 12:23 am
And JUNO Mail?
I know at least 2 people who still use Juno accounts
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Zombie Mambo to Nightfox on Mon Sep 30 2019 03:59 pm
One of the first door games I remember that had its own terminal (optional) to increase graphic abilities was Global War. I loved that game.
You might get a kick out of this interview I did with Joel Bergen about GW:
https://breakintochat.com/blog/2013/03/21/joel-bergen-creator-of-global-war/
--Josh
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BiC -=- http://breakintochat.com -=- bbs wiki and blog
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Zombie Mambo on Sat Sep 28 2019 05:24 pm
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Zombie Mambo to Oderus on Tue Sep 24 2019 14:28:00
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Oderus to Zombie Mambo on Sun Sep 22 2019 05:26 pm
Yeah either that or try calling an actual commodore 64 bbs maybe? Then again who knows if the term you have for vic20 will do "commodore graphics"
I was never a fan of bbs's that utilized the built in features only supported by the computer they ran on. TI also had built in sound and graphics (yes you could play a full song on your bbs, and display real graphics) but only TI callers could see/hear them.
That's what made ANSI so great.
But there is something to be said about those old text-only, non color bb of the early 80's that was so magical and exciting to me. They were all s different from each other. Sysops put a lot of thought into their theme, menu layouts, etc.
Once ibm/pc became the norm, and ANSI became the norm, there was a period where all bbs's seemed to look/feel the same to me and it got boring.
Thanks,
Zombie Mambo
Lately I have been trying to call the couple of RIP bbs' available from my amiga, the only problem is.. the rip bbs' I know of that are actually set up for RIP are on alternate ports, and the ripterm for amiga doesn't like the : at the end, so I can't effectively call one, since I won't use Windows. I CA emulate RIPtel in Linux but not everything works properly so I am kind of at stand still on that.
Regards
why not use xpmode and run windows as a VM on your linux machine?
Thanks,
Zombie Mambo
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Moondog to Lupine Furmen on Wed Oct 02 2019 11:03 am
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Lupine Furmen to Zombie Mambo on Wed Oct 02 2019 12:23 am
And JUNO Mail?
I know at least 2 people who still use Juno accounts
I know one as well.
My ultra-liberal uncle who told me comptuers would never catch on when i was in 1982 trying to explain BBS's and Email to him.
Thanks,
Zombie Mambo
AOL 5.0
AOL GOLD!
AOL PREMIUM!
We'd get a disk in the mail like 2 times a month.
Remember when NETZERO first came out?
And JUNO Mail?
Hell, remember WEB-TV !?!?
2007, Insight Communications (Which was bought out by Time Warner Cable and then became Spectrum some time later) we got on broadband, and from
On 30 Sep 2019, Zombie Mambo said the following...
AOL 5.0
AOL GOLD!
AOL PREMIUM!
We'd get a disk in the mail like 2 times a month.
Remember when NETZERO first came out?
And JUNO Mail?
Hell, remember WEB-TV !?!?
I actually grew up on computers starting around the early to mid 2000s. I remember using AOL for a period, we had a old Dell desktop and I'd play vide games on it, before I'd be forced to get off the line. Around 2007, Insight Communications (Which was bought out by Time Warner Cable and then became Spectrum some time later) we got on broadband, and from there I kinda spent my days playing games on Newgrounds.
As for Web-TV, I am all too familiar with it. My mom used it for years on dial-up to keep in touch with penpals and what not. I do wish that WebTV caught on a bit more. Hell, I wish a lot of things we had in the 90s and 2000s caught on for the forseeable future, but I guess that's wishful thinking from a girl yearning for days long gone, huh.
Remember when NETZERO first came out?
And JUNO Mail?
MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to All <=-
I am still happy to use Syncterm, it still kicks the lamma's arse.
My one pet peeve is that the screen is sort of a lit-up dark gray when I do fullscreen on my Windows box, but it's definitely the most stable and dependable for downloads.
As for Web-TV, I am all too familiar with it. My mom used it for years on dial-up to keep in touch with penpals and what not. I do wish that WebTV caught on a bit more. Hell, I wish a lot of things we had in the 90s and 2000s caught on for the forseeable future, but I guess that's wishful thinking from a girl yearning for days long gone, huh.
I am amazed that just recently we started geting TVs with Roku built in. I can't believe we haven't had whole tv's based off android / chromeOS that double as a tv, media player, and PC all at once.
Juno email is still available for free. I created an account yesterday and it works great. It also has pop3 so I can use my favorite software. Not bad for a freebee. I forgot all about Juno. Thanks brining it up fellas.
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: HusTler to Moondog on Sun Oct 06 2019 01:26 pm
Juno email is still available for free. I created an account yesterday it works great. It also has pop3 so I can use my favorite software. Not b for a freebee. I forgot all about Juno. Thanks brining it up fellas.
I picture a lone, dusty server in some bomb shelter serving Juno emails all
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Juno email is still available for free. I created an account yesterday
I picture a lone, dusty server in some bomb shelter serving Juno emails all day long...
It was like re-visiting a ghost town, except it wasn't a ghost town the last time you were there. As the local ISP's began adding local call up numbers, iI noticed the traffic dying off the local BBS's until many of the sysops pulled the plug and tried their hands in either building a personal website or hosting an online forum.
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Moondog to Android8675 on Tue Oct 08 2019 01:19 am
It was like re-visiting a ghost town, except it wasn't a ghost town the last time you were there. As the local ISP's began adding local call up numbers, iI noticed the traffic dying off the local BBS's until many of the sysops pulled the plug and tried their hands in either building a personal website or hosting an online forum.
The internet was the hot new thing at the time. Now, we have many sysops running a BBS again (online via the internet)..
Nightfox
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Android8675 to HusTler on Mon Oct 07 2019 08:15 am
Juno email is still available for free. I created an account yesterd
I picture a lone, dusty server in some bomb shelter serving Juno emails a day long...
It may be running off a C64 in somebody's basement but it still works.;-
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Moondog to Android8675 on Tue Oct 08 2019 01:19 am
It was like re-visiting a ghost town, except it wasn't a ghost town the last time you were there. As the local ISP's began adding local call up numbers, iI noticed the traffic dying off the local BBS's until many of the sysops pulled the plug and tried their hands in either building a personal website or hosting an online forum.
The internet was the hot new thing at the time. Now, we have many sysops ru
Nightfox
I'll go one further from WebTV...I remember when "WebTV" was called "Telidon."
It failed too.
broke and had no space for a PC. ;-) . Why we're on the subject do any of these new fangled TV's have a web browser built in these days? I though I saw an Ad for one.
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Chickenhead to Zombie Mambo on Fri Oct 11 2019 07:23 pm
I'll go one further from WebTV...I remember when "WebTV" was called "Telidon."
It failed too.
I had WebTV. I'll tell you what. That thing got me online when I was too broke and had no space for a PC. ;-) . Why we're on the subject do any of th new fangled TV's have a web browser built in these days? I though I saw an A for one.
Ah but these "smrt" (in the Homer Simpson sense) TVs all seem to have that nasty disclaimer where they all admit they are watching you.
Ah but these "smrt" (in the Homer Simpson sense) TVs all seem to
have that nasty disclaimer where they all admit they are watching
you.
They do? I've never seen my TV show a disclaimer about that.
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Nightfox to Chickenhead on Fri Oct 25 2019 07:24 pm
Ah but these "smrt" (in the Homer Simpson sense) TVs all seem to
have that nasty disclaimer where they all admit they are watching
you.
They do? I've never seen my TV show a disclaimer about that.
I don't think my smart TVs even have a camera on them. Though, I have heard things about smart TVs possibly recording things.. I'd think they'd have to have a camera and/or microphone for that, and I don't think mine has either of those. I have heard of some uses for a microphone, such as voice recognition for changing the channel & things, but as far as I know, mine doesn't have that.
https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/283617-vizio-claims-smart-tvs-spy- on-you-for-your-own-good
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri
Oct 25 2019 10:02 pm
https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/283617-vizio-claims-smart-tvs on-you-for-your-own-good
Interesting..
I don't need to put that URL in my browser to beg to fucking differ with tha one. Good thing my old Vizio TV that I used only was used as a monitor and didn't have a mic.
On 26 Oct 2019, Nightfox said the following...
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Digital Man to Nightfox on Fri
Oct 25 2019 10:02 pm
https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/283617-vizio-claims-smart- tvs on-you-for-your-own-good
Interesting..
I don't need to put that URL in my browser to beg to fucking differ with that one. Good thing my old Vizio TV that I used only was used as a monitor and didn't have a mic.
have that nasty disclaimer where they all admit they are watching
you.
They do? I've never seen my TV show a disclaimer about that.
I don't think my smart TVs even have a camera on them. Though, I have heard things about smart TVs possibly recording things.. I'd think they'd have to have a camera and/or microphone for that, and I don't think mine has either of those. I have heard of some uses for a microphone, such as voice recognition for changing the channel & things, but as far as I know, mine doesn't have that.
Nightfox
https://www.extremetech.com/electronics/283617-vizio-claims-smart-tvs-spy-on -yo u-for-your-own-good
digital man
I thought...and correct me if I'm wrong...the Samsung Smart TVs explicitly said they "could" be listening in.
I know my Samsung phone certainly listens in. I can't tell you the number of times the wife and I have been discussing things near the phone and suddenly I start getting targeted advertising for the very thing we were talking about.
My wife and I have (i guess) a first edition Android (ver 4.something) smart tv 55" Hisense POS! and we never, ever use anything "smart" about it. Roku is all we use. The remote control is your typical remote control, with one "addition". It has a microphone in it for speaking to the tv. We never activate it, talk to it or anything and MY GOD we have to change the batteries out in that bastard controller once a month religiously. I've taped the mic thinking anything would change. I was wrong. I'm ready to drop that tv off at the pound. Is that a thing? Ugh... not to mention the bloody thing was $700! Now you can get them for what, $250?
I know my Samsung phone certainly listens in. I can't tell you the numb of times the wife and I have been discussing things near the phone and suddenly I start getting targeted advertising for the very thing we wer talking about.
based on anything I've talked about. Facebook has been accused of that too, but I haven't had that happen for me on Facebook either. But I tend not to the Facebook app, as I usually prefer using the web interface for Facebook e
Ugh... not to mention the bloody thing was $700! Now you can get them for what, $250?
I bought my living room TV In 2015 and it doesn't have a remote with a mic. I know what you mean about prices though - Newer smart TVs even at the same size have come down in price a lot since I bought mine.
Nightfox
facebook isnt listening to you because you dont use the app.
for fucking sure that app listens to you and you will see ads about what you are talking about. i'm pretty sure i've mentioned how i was talking about a garage door to my gf and all of a sudden nothing but garage shit on fb ads. ---
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Nightfox to Chickenhead on Sat Nov 02 2019 11:23 am
I know my Samsung phone certainly listens in. I can't tell you the n of times the wife and I have been discussing things near the phone a suddenly I start getting targeted advertising for the very thing we talking about.
based on anything I've talked about. Facebook has been accused of that t but I haven't had that happen for me on Facebook either. But I tend not the Facebook app, as I usually prefer using the web interface for Faceboo
facebook isnt listening to you because you dont use the app.
for fucking sure that app listens to you and you will see ads about what you are talking about. i'm pretty sure i've mentioned how i was talking about a garage door to my gf and all of a sudden nothing but garage shit on fb ads.
the Roku. We have a cheap $20 one upstairs in the bedroom and the original one I bought which is a Roku 4, and it was well over $100 because I thought though. We ditched cable about 6 years ago and haven't looked back.
Doesn't Roku require an internet connection? How do you get internet without Cable? Or did you mean you ditched Cable TV??
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Doesn't Roku require an internet connection? How do you get internet without Cable? Or did you mean you ditched Cable TV??
I will NEVER again own a smart tv. No way Jose! This one I have needs to go be with Jesus.I think the reason why smart tvs are so cheap now where 65 inch 4k's are at
I think the reason why smart tvs are so cheap now where 65 inch 4k's are at 349 as a black friday sale is because there is spyware.
Matt Munson wrote to Sir Air Walker <=-
I will NEVER again own a smart tv. No way Jose! This one I have needs to go be with Jesus.
I think the reason why smart tvs are so cheap now where 65 inch
4k's are at 349 as a black friday sale is because there is
spyware.
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Matt Munson to Sir Air Walker on Sun Nov 10 2019 12:07 pm
I think the reason why smart tvs are so cheap now where 65 inch 4k's ar at 349 as a black friday sale is because there is spyware.
If that were the case, then I wonder why smart TVs were so much more expensi
Nightfox
It's because, just like all other technology, as time progresses,
and advances are made, and sales increase, things.... get cheaper. Another great example is how computers/computer components have
gotten cheaper. I remember paying more for a 100MB (yes that's
"MB") hard drive in the 90's than I'd pay for a 2TB SSD today.
Same thing with computer memory, the price differences are
unbelievable as compared to years ago.
Technology prices will drop over time due to Moore's law, however some
Nightfox wrote to Gamgee <=-
It's because, just like all other technology, as time progresses,
and advances are made, and sales increase, things.... get cheaper.
Another great example is how computers/computer components have
gotten cheaper. I remember paying more for a 100MB (yes that's
"MB") hard drive in the 90's than I'd pay for a 2TB SSD today.
Same thing with computer memory, the price differences are
unbelievable as compared to years ago.
Yes, I also remember when RAM was over $100 per megabyte.
Computer parts are very cheap these days compared to how it used
to be. But paradoxically, it seems you can buy a pre-built PC
for less than it costs to build your own these days. It used to
be cheaper to build your own PC, but these days, I don't think
that's so true anymore.
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Gamgee to Matt Munson on Mon Nov 11 2019 08:18 am
It's because, just like all other technology, as time progresses,
and advances are made, and sales increase, things.... get cheaper. Another great example is how computers/computer components have
gotten cheaper. I remember paying more for a 100MB (yes that's
"MB") hard drive in the 90's than I'd pay for a 2TB SSD today.
Same thing with computer memory, the price differences are
unbelievable as compared to years ago.
Yes, I also remember when RAM was over $100 per megabyte. Computer parts ar
cheaper to build your own PC, but these days, I don't think that's so true
Nightfox
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Mon Nov 11 2019 09:53 am
Technology prices will drop over time due to Moore's law, however some
Moore's Law isn't really about price. And my understanding is that Moore's owing down though.
Nightfox
Low end pc's can be purchased for less than they can be built for. Several years ago I needed a spare pc to learn linux on and use for testing different software packages, and a co-worker told me about a deal Dell had with systems on closeout. For $200 I received a very barebones system that didn't even have a video card slot (only PCI slots) and IIRC the optical
drive it shipped with was only a reader, not a burner. Only thing I had to do to make it useful was add more memory. 256mb in a 2.4Ghz P4 running Windows XP was a
bit on the silly side. Even with a clean load memory usage was nearly maxed out.
I remember back in the day when motherboards had PCI and an AGP slot for a v
Nightfox
Re: Re: Terminal Applications
By: Chickenhead to Zombie Mambo on Fri Oct 11 2019 07:23 pm
I'll go one further from WebTV...I remember when "WebTV" was called "Telidon."
It failed too.
I had WebTV. I'll tell you what. That thing got me online when I was too broke and had no space for a PC. ;-) . Why we're on the subject do any of these new fangled TV's have a web browser built in these days? I though I saw an Ad for one.
Actually, I uploaded them to Amigacity, which I consider my Home BBS,
in the Miscellaneous file area. File names are MagiTerm.png,
syncterm.png, and NetRun.png
ever consider using imgur and providing the links?
why not use xpmode and run windows as a VM on your linux machine?Valid point, I shall have to find an install CD somewhere :)
Re: Terminal Applications
By: Zombie Mambo to Oderus on Mon Sep 30 2019 16:04:40
why not use xpmode and run windows as a VM on your linux machine?Valid point, I shall have to find an install CD somewhere :)
XPMODE is free for download from Microsoft, google for it.
All you need is a virtual player to run it (i use oracle's openbox).
You will get the "not registered" nag message but it never expires and with a reg hack or two you can disable that notification in XP.
It's a life-saver and I'm really thankful to Microsoft for providing it.
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