I've recently seen reviews of some consumer grade tape decks, most recently the new TASCAM CD-A580 on vwestlife's channel.
So, I'm sure yall's have seen the review. Would it be prudent for me to buy a model such as the tascam or find a relatively inexpensive naka?
I'm in need of some fresh tapes for my car's deck and would prefer to mix them on a quality deck.
I've recently seen reviews of some consumer grade tape decks, most recently the new TASCAM CD-A580 on vwestlife's channel.
Wow, you have a cassette deck in your... car? I thought I had an old car (19
I'm looking for a way to dub new cassettes. I have over 4000 cd's in my collection but my car has a tape deck up front and a CD changer in the trunk. I drive a very clean and low mileage 2002.
On 03-19-20 15:59, Nightfox wrote to calcmandan <=-
Unless you really like playing cassettes, I'm thinking it might be
easier to use the CD changer, or other than upgrading your car stereo,
you can buy one of those cassette audio adapters that would let you
plug a smartphone/media player/etc. into your car radio via the
cassette deck: https://www.amazon.com/RCA-AH600R-Car-Cassette-Adapter/dp/B000BUN79K
I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)
On 03-20-20 12:24, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Fri Mar 20 2020 03:14 pm
I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)
I haven't tried that. I have a USB flash drive with my music library
in my car, which I tend to listen to quite a bit. Seems easier than connecting my phone to my car stereo. :)
I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my
phone. Easoest of the lot. :)
I haven't tried that. I have a USB flash drive with my music
library in my car, which I tend to listen to quite a bit. Seems
easier than connecting my phone to my car stereo. :)
Bluetooth is pretty straightforward. :) The issue I have with USB drives is how good the interface is to navigate the tracks. A lot of audio gear has really clunky interfaces, from my experience. Phones are better, generally. :)
On 03-20-20 20:54, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
True, though I think my car stereo works well enough. And I think it's easier to reach over to the car stereo to navigate music rather than
reach down to my phone. I at least feel a little safer in my car when
I only have to reach over to my car stereo.
Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-
I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)
On 03-20-20 08:07, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
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Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-
I use a Bluetooth to FM adapter for the car and keep the music on my phone. Easoest of the lot. :)
It's easy to get spoiled. My wife and I bought a used car, a 2011
Mazda. Excellent condition, well maintained, and once I had the
interior detailed, it looks like new.
The only hiccup? 2011 audio. Wait, what do you mean there isn't a touch screen, and support for USB drives? I can't pick music by genres,
select play lists, and use voice commands? No Pandora client?
Works fine for my wife, she still listens to CDs and it does do
hands-free bluetooth. I found a cable with lightning on one end and a 3.5mm stereo headphone plug so she can play audio through the AUX jack.
True, though I think my car stereo works well enough. And I think
it's easier to reach over to the car stereo to navigate music rather
than reach down to my phone. I at least feel a little safer in my
car when I only have to reach over to my car stereo.
Where's your phone? I use an in car mount that puts the phone in a convenient place, and the Bluetooth interface adds convenient buttons for previous, next track, as well as play/pause/answer call. And yes, I can talk hands free too. :)
It's easy to get spoiled. My wife and I bought a used car, a 2011 Mazda. Excellent condition, well maintained, and once I had the interior detailed, it looks like new.
The only hiccup? 2011 audio. Wait, what do you mean there isn't a touch screen, and support for USB drives? I can't pick music by genres, select play lists, and use voice commands? No Pandora client?
Works fine for my wife, she still listens to CDs and it does do hands-free bluetooth. I found a cable with lightning on one end and a 3.5mm stereo headphone plug so she can play audio through the AUX jack.
On 03-22-20 01:35, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Where's your phone? I use an in car mount that puts the phone in a convenient place, and the Bluetooth interface adds convenient buttons for previous, next track, as well as play/pause/answer call. And yes, I can talk hands free too. :)
In the car, I usually have my phone in one of the cup holders. Or I
might just leave my phone in my pocket. :)
In the car, I usually have my phone in one of the cup holders. Or I
might just leave my phone in my pocket. :)
Having it in a cup holder would be illegal here, but pocket is OK. Either way, I can still control play, previous and next track with the phone in my pocket over Bluetooth. :)
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I don't really use much of that. I put a GPS navigation stereo in my
car in 2012, and I mostly just use the radio tuner (yes, I still listen
to the radio in my car), MP3s on a USB drive, and I use the GPS from
time to time. It has a Pandora connection, but even with my phone
paired via Bluetooth and Pandora running on my phone, I've never gotten the Pandora connection working with my car stereo.
Vk3jed wrote to Nightfox <=-
Having it in a cup holder would be illegal here, but pocket is OK.
Either way, I can still control play, previous and next track with the phone in my pocket over Bluetooth. :)
On 03-22-20 12:41, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Here, it's illegal to be using or holding a phone while driving, but I haven't heard of it being illegal to have a phone in the cup holder
here.
On 03-22-20 11:58, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I think you're right - "Attached to the dash" is the phrase I keep
hearing from law enforcement.
A friend of mine got a ticket for using his phone in a self-driving
Tesla on the highway. The told him to get a dash mount - the level of distraction would be the same, but they could check the box.
I think you're right - "Attached to the dash" is the phrase I keep hearing from law enforcement.
A friend of mine got a ticket for using his phone in a self-driving Tesla on the highway. The told him to get a dash mount - the level of distraction would be the same, but they could check the box.
Nightfox wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I have an in-dash GPS car streo, and when I activate the GPS, it gives
a momentary warning not to use it while driving, and for a moment, it
even prevents you from pressing the button to continue so that you can read the message. Seems a little ironic for it to make you wait for a message about using it while driving, if you're driving..
Here, it's illegal to be using or holding a phone while driving, but
I haven't heard of it being illegal to have a phone in the cup
holder here.
People have been done for not having their phone properly secured. And no excuse, since there's cheap holders that are dead easy to fit.
On 03-23-20 13:44, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
I can understand holding their phone while driving, but why "properly secured"? If someone is on their phone hands-free with bluetooth or something, what difference would it make if the phone is in a phone
holder or in a cup holder, or in their pocket?
I can understand holding their phone while driving, but why
"properly secured"? If someone is on their phone hands-free with
bluetooth or something, what difference would it make if the phone
is in a phone holder or in a cup holder, or in their pocket?
In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been said.
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Vk3jed to Nightfox on Tue Mar 24 2020 10:53 am
I can understand holding their phone while driving, but why
"properly secured"? If someone is on their phone hands-free with
bluetooth or something, what difference would it make if the phone
is in a phone holder or in a cup holder, or in their pocket?
In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been said.
I'd think the same could be said for anything sitting in the car.. For inst where, which could potentially go flying in a collision.
Nightfox
If the phone needs some level of interaction, such as to answer a call , a loose phone could slip out of someone's hands or be right out of their reach, making it hard to reach and drive at the same time.
little surprised they also haven't passed laws against changing the music on car stereo while driving, or using a GPS while driving.
The only hiccup? 2011 audio. Wait, what do you mean there isn't a touch screen, and support for USB drives? I can't pick music by genres, select
play lists, and use voice commands? No Pandora client?
Works fine for my wife, she still listens to CDs and it does do hands-free bluetooth. I found a cable with lightning on one end and a 3.5mm stereo headphone plug so she can play audio through the AUX jack.
I don't really use much of that. I put a GPS navigation stereo in my car in 2012, and I mostly just use the radio tuner (yes, I still listen to the radio in my car), MP3s on a USB drive, and I use the GPS from time to time. It has a Pandora connection, but even with my phone paired via Bluetooth and Pandora running on my phone, I've never gotten the Pandora connection working with my car stereo.
In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been said.
That's one reason why some places have passed laws against holding and using a phone while driving. If you can use your phone hands-free, that would be more ideal. Some smartphones have a voice assistant that can read texts and let you respond to texts with voice commands. Also, many cars these days have a Bluetooth-compatible stereo and let you answer phone calls from the car streo interface so you don't have to touch your phone. You could also buy a Bluetooth headset to wear while driving.
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 22 2020 11:22 pm
little surprised they also haven't passed laws against changing the music car stereo while driving, or using a GPS while driving.
yeah i have fucked with my gps while driving 90 and moved a bit out of the lines.
I've seen people shaving, putting on makeup and reading the newspaper while driving
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: MRO to Nightfox on Thu Mar 26 2020 12:27 am
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Nightfox to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 22 2020 11:22 pm
little surprised they also haven't passed laws against changing the mu car stereo while driving, or using a GPS while driving.
yeah i have fucked with my gps while driving 90 and moved a bit out of th lines.
I've seen people shaving, putting on makeup and reading the newspaper while driving
On 03-26-20 05:17, Tracker1 wrote to Vk3jed <=-aid.
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On 3/23/2020 4:53 PM, Vk3jed wrote:
In a collision, an unsecured phone can become a missile. That has been
As could an actual cup in said cup holder...
On 03-26-20 11:33, Moondog wrote to MRO <=-
I've seen people shaving, putting on makeup and reading the newspaper while driving
I used to have a casette tape deck back in the 80's that was awesome like that. You could tap the rewind button and it would go to the beginning of the song. If you tapped it twice, it'd go 2 songs back. If you tapped the play button twice, it'd repeat the current song. It was awesome and had a high power headphone amplifier likely contributing significantly to the tinnitus I enjoy today! :-)
I used to have a casette tape deck back in the 80's that was awesome
like that. You could tap the rewind button and it would go to the beginning of the song. If you tapped it twice, it'd go 2 songs back.
If you tapped the play button twice, it'd repeat the current song.
It was awesome and had a high power headphone amplifier likely contributing significantly to the tinnitus I enjoy today! :-)
headphone amplifier likely contributing significantly to the tinnitus I enjo today! :-)
On 04-21-20 13:14, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
Nah, tapes are horrible: They stretch, they demagnetize, they get
tangled, they're noisy and have a low dynamic range. Good riddance, I
say!
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: MRO to Digital Man on Tue Apr 21 2020 05:32 pm
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Digital Man to Rampage on Tue Apr 21 2020 01:17 pm
headphone amplifier likely contributing significantly to the tinnitus enjo today! :-)
did you ever try decreasing your salt intake? it worked for me a little w my tinnitus.
No, but I'm not a big consumer of salt to begin with. I've had some results with therapy apps on the iphone, but mostly, I just live with it. <shrug>
Rampage wrote to Nightfox <=-
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Nightfox to calcmandan on Tue Apr 21 2020 11:13:31
Nightfox> With CDs and media files on a USB drive, you can skip tracks
Nightfox> easily. But with a cassette tape, if you want to go to a
Nightfox> specific song, you have to keep fast-forwarding/rewinding
Nightfox> and stop to check if it's in the right place, and if not,
Nightfox> keep going..
i guess you never had one of those intelligent tape decks that would
fast forward listening for the silence between songs and then drop back
to normal play mode, then ;)
Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Nightfox to calcmandan on Tue Apr 21 2020 11:13 am
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Mon Apr 20 2020 06:07 pm
Tape is better than people remember. I only use type-2 tape.
I suppose tape isn't that bad, but the other part of it is convenience.
With CDs and media files on a USB drive, you can skip tracks easily. But with a cassette tape, if you want to go to a specific song, you have to keep fast-forwarding/rewinding and stop to check if it's in the right place, and if not, keep going..
Nah, tapes are horrible: They stretch, they demagnetize, they get
tangled, they're noisy and have a low dynamic range. Good riddance, I
say!
With vinyl, you had "groove echo" (even on a brand new LP), which I don't miss... so yeah, I'm the digital man for a reason. :-)
Nightfox wrote to calcmandan <=-
It has little to do with driving, as the issue happens on any cassette deck, at home or wherever.. But with driving it can be worse if you
have to fiddle with the car stereo too much.
I still like to buy CDs, but if I bought music online, I'd prefer FLAC format.
On 04-22-20 12:30, Digital Man wrote to calcmandan <=-
With vinyl, you had "groove echo" (even on a brand new LP), which I
don't miss... so yeah, I'm the digital man for a reason. :-)
On 04-22-20 14:17, Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-
I tend to like digital formats too (CD and computer audio files). I
don't like the hiss and pops and crackles in vinyl. And not too long
ago I learned something I never really thought about, that because
vinyl records spin at a constant speed, the grooves toward the center
of the record don't capture high frequencies as well as the outer
grooves because the inner grooves are shorter.
On 04-22-20 16:13, Digital Man wrote to Nightfox <=-
Good point. You'd have lower fidelity on those inner grooves. Tapes had similar issues as the amount of tape on the spool could affect the
speed over the heads. "Mechanical music" :-)
ago I learned something I never really thought about, that because
vinyl records spin at a constant speed, the grooves toward the
center of the record don't capture high frequencies as well as the
outer grooves because the inner grooves are shorter.
Yep, that's related to why CDs use constant linear velocity (i.e. varying the RPM depending on where the laser pickup is reading) - to maximise the storage capability of the medium for a constant data rate. In the analog world, that shows as changes in the frequency response of the medium as linear velocity changes.
Nope, still terrible: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPn3Gop2h1A
On 04-22-20 19:51, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
As far as sound quality, I thought the groove length wouldn't really matter with CDs, because it's a series of digital bits rather than
analog data. But it's good that they thought of maximizing storage capacity.
I used to leave my tapes in hot cars and a hot garage a lot, which likely played a role in the degradation I experienced. But I've also heard pristine tapes that were left wound too long and you get an echo or warble where the
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Digital Man to calcmandan on Wed Apr 22 2020 12:30 pm
I used to leave my tapes in hot cars and a hot garage a lot, which likely played a role in the degradation I experienced. But I've also heard pristine tapes that were left wound too long and you get an echo or warble where the
i just had a flashback of the tape being eaten in the cassette deck.
yep, dont miss that
On 04-24-20 16:51, MRO wrote to Digital Man <=-
i just had a flashback of the tape being eaten in the cassette deck.
yep, dont miss that
Digital Man wrote to MRO <=-
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: MRO to Digital Man on Fri Apr 24 2020 04:51 pm
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Digital Man to calcmandan on Wed Apr 22 2020 12:30 pm
I used to leave my tapes in hot cars and a hot garage a lot, which likely played a role in the degradation I experienced. But I've also heard pristine tapes that were left wound too long and you get an echo or warble where the
i just had a flashback of the tape being eaten in the cassette deck.
yep, dont miss that
Oh yeah. Get a pencil and rewind that thing to play it again, now with lots of extra special effects. :-)
Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.
It's hella what?
... um...
Yes, audacity is my go-to audio editing suite. I find it to be a fantastic option for a FOSS offering.
Better?
On 04-25-20 15:44, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Audacity :) ), once I had obtained a replacement cassette deck. :)
Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.
Nightfox wrote to calcmandan <=-
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: calcmandan to Nightfox on Sat Apr 25 2020 08:41 pm
Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.
It's hella what?
... um...
Yes, audacity is my go-to audio editing suite. I find it to be a fantastic option for a FOSS offering.
Better?
I'm familiar with hella.. I just normally see it used like "very", as
in "hella awesome", etc.. Seemed like there was a missing word there.
Vk3jed wrote to calcmandan <=-
On 04-25-20 15:44, calcmandan wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Audacity :) ), once I had obtained a replacement cassette deck. :)
Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.
I love how you can edit to the precision of a single sample, if you
zoom in close enough - That can create seamless edits that I could only dream of when I was younger and trying to make clean edits with a
couple of cassette decks! :)
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: calcmandan to Vk3jed on Sat Apr 25 2020 03:44 pm
Yeah audacity is my go-to. it's hella.
It's hella what?
Nightfox
Okay, maybe I'll give that a try. Mine is clearly from shooting guns, going rocks concerts, and playing in very loud bands with insufficient (or no) hearing protection. YOLO. <shrug>
hella is something people used to say. like asshat
As I said in the previous post, you have zero credibility. Hella is quite a
I love how you can edit to the precision of a single sample, if you zoom close enough - That can create seamless edits that I could only dream of when I was younger and trying to make clean edits with a couple of casset decks! :)
Yup, and long ago, Cool Edit was the wide-spread free wave editor before Ado bought it.
I'm familiar with hella.. I just normally see it used like "very", as
in "hella awesome", etc.. Seemed like there was a missing word there.
I think the good/cool/awesome is implied when its unstated.
"I've heared it said that way." - Karl Childers
Yup, and long ago, Cool Edit was the wide-spread free wave editor before Adobe bought it.
:) I haven't really heard "hella" used a whole lot where I am. I
think I've heard the word originated in California?
You got it. That's where I live and it's commonly used here. So it comes from habit. I also say things are 'cherry.' People don't say 'rad' anymore, but I do.
Digital Man wrote to calcmandan <=-
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: calcmandan to MRO on Sun Apr 26 2020 11:11 pm
Yup, and long ago, Cool Edit was the wide-spread free wave editor before Ado bought it.
yepp cool edit was good back then. i was just going to mention it but i couldnt remember the name. i used to talk to one of the developers via email in the mid 90s. very nice people.
What did adobe rebrand it to again? I remember seeing it back in the early days and my old from college used the adobe version while producing radio stuff.
Adobe Audition. I don't see a way to buy it outright today, just the subscription scheme. <shrug>
Moondog wrote to Android8675 <=-
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Android8675 to Nightfox on Mon Apr 27 2020 11:12 am
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Nightfox to calcmandan on Mon Apr 27 2020 02:37 am
Shockingly B&T lingo didn't really catch on unless it was used as sarcasim. anta Cruz County. Think Los Gatos to Marin). But talk to surfers for a few m
Spend enough time with a group and you make up your own lingo. Level of unde --
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... Disconnect from desire
A couple years ago I heard the kids trying to use "Epic" and "Epic
fail." It sounded forced, not like part of their organic language.
I still use gnarly, totally awesome, excellent, bogus, and refer to
people as dude. Righteous and most heinous get the point across.
On 04-28-20 00:56, Nightfox wrote to Vk3jed <=-
That's some serious editing. :) I've done some digital audio
splicing, but not to that level. Though, I have done some programming
related to audio recording & mixing multiple audio files together. For
my senior project in college, I made a simple multi-track audio
recorder for musicians. I wrote it in C++ for Windows. It would let
you record invidiual tracks as separate WAV files, and then mix the
audio together to a single WAV file when you're done. And since then, I've made newer itrations of the WAV mixing code, once in C#, and then
in C++ again. The newer C++ mixing code, I actually wrote not too long ago, around November/December 2018. One thing I wanted to accomplish
by writing that again was to write better code, and also to use modern
C++ features. Also, I thought of a way to mix the audio files a bit faster than I was doing it previously.
On 04-28-20 12:33, Digital Man wrote to Moondog <=-
Rad.
Moondog wrote to Digital Man <=-
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Digital Man to Moondog on Tue Apr 28 2020 12:33 pm
Re: Re: Tape deck
By: Moondog to Android8675 on Tue Apr 28 2020 12:49 pm
I still use gnarly, totally awesome, excellent, bogus, and refer to peopl as dude. Righteous and most heinous get the point across.
Rad.
digital man
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