Sandman wrote to All <=-
Anyone looking forward to the start of the NFL season? The
Saints were screwed out of their chance to go to the Superbowl
last year because of very poor officiating. Pass interference was
very obvious but not called. To answer this travesty the NFL has
changed the rules and made receivers untouchable by defenders.
Carl Banks, former New York Giant commented during the Jet/Giant
preseason game "If these are going to be the new rules they might
as well just get rid of the position". The NFL has already turned
the game of football into a
"sissy" game. Pretty soon they won't allow tackling at all.
Ewwwww don't hurt the QB. Ewwww you tackled me too hard. Ewwww
You gave me a concussion.The NFL is
crying about low attendance? Keep adding more stupid rules to the
game. And don't forget to let the whole damn team kneel during
our national anthem. That really ought to bring in the crowds. So
is anyone looking forward to the start to the NFL season?
Gamgee wrote to Sandman <=-
I haven't watched an NFL game in nearly two years, and will
continue my boycott this year. I don't care about rule changes,
but the kneeling for the national anthem is the dealbreaker for
me. Bunch of disrespectful, entitled, prima donnas who can't just
play a simple game without getting political. Screw all of em.
Dumas Walker wrote to Gamgee <=-
I haven't watched an NFL game in nearly two years, and will
continue my boycott this year. I don't care about rule changes,
but the kneeling for the national anthem is the dealbreaker for
me. Bunch of disrespectful, entitled, prima donnas who can't just
play a simple game without getting political. Screw all of em.
I have always prefered the college game myself. Looking forward
to the season starting Labor Day weekend.
Dumas Walker wrote to Gamgee <=-
I haven't watched an NFL game in nearly two years, and will
continue my boycott this year. I don't care about rule changes,
but the kneeling for the national anthem is the dealbreaker for
me. Bunch of disrespectful, entitled, prima donnas who can't just
play a simple game without getting political. Screw all of em.
I have always prefered the college game myself. Looking forward
to the season starting Labor Day weekend.
Yes, I like to watch some college football, but certainly not a
fanatic about it. I especially like the in-state rivalry games
near the end of the season.
My real sports passion is hockey, and baseball to some extent.
... Forbidden fruit is responsible for many a bad jam.
Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?
HusTler wrote to All <=-
Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans?
I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's
yours?
I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.
Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?
Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?
Not a full-on fan, that's my wife - but it's the Bills - the only New York t that actually *plays* in New York ;)
Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-
I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.
haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?
Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-
I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.
haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?
Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.
... All the easy problems have been solved.
Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am
I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.
haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?
Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.
Ah, I see.
I see you have a bigger number of powerful leagues over there.
Here in Spain, only soccer makes money... everything else does
not really pull its weight.
My father asked me what the biggest sport was over there and I
told him I believed it to be baseball, but I don't know how
accurate my estimation was :-)
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Sun Sep 27 2020 06:38 pm
I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.
haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who are not in t US?
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Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?
Browns here. They looked sharp yesterday.
Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a
New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?
Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playing of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest during the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was revered as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who served and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities on the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.
field creating a distraction during a period of respect.
I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to take a knee, as some people say. Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.
Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 11:17 am
Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playing of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest during the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was revered as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who served and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities on the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.
I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I
don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to
take a knee, as some people say.
Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am
Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-
I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.
haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?
Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.
... All the easy problems have been solved.
Ah, I see.
I see you have a bigger number of powerful leagues over there. Here in Spain only soccer makes money... everything else does not really pull its weight.
My father asked me what the biggest sport was over there and I told him I believed it to be baseball, but I don't know how accurate my estimation was
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Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 11:17 am
Before sporting events it customary for everyone to rise for the playin of our national anthem. Kapernick took this time as an opportunity to protest police brutality by kneeling and "taking a knee" in protest dur the ceremony. He did this to get people's attentoin, and sure enough he recieved more than his share of negative attention because it was rever as being disrespectful during a time when most reflect on those who ser and died to protect our nation, and celebrate our freedom. The NFL is pretty strict on how athletes promote personal political and charities the field, and some believe "on the field" includes being on the field creating a distraction during a period of respect.
I know it's customary to stand for the national anthem, but I don't see how an extreme reaction.
Nightfox
don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to
take a knee, as some people say.
Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
of respectful.
Perhaps if you asked a veteran, or a family member of a veteran
killed in action, you'd get an answer that would explain it.
The way I see it, it's disrespectful to take a ceremony or time we use to commemorate or reflect on those who gave their lives to protect our country, and make it into a soapbox to serve their own interests. The NFL has so many rules preventing the "soapbox" to appear regarding non-sanctioned messages, then they let this pass.
Nightfox wrote to Moondog <=-
Re: Re: NFL
By: Moondog to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 01:12 am
The way I see it, it's disrespectful to take a ceremony or time we use to commemorate or reflect on those who gave their lives to protect our country, and make it into a soapbox to serve their own interests. The NFL has so many rules preventing the "soapbox" to appear regarding non-sanctioned messages, then they let this pass.
I can see that, yes. But if it's a matter of just how you
respect the anthem, I'd think people can respect the anthem
multiple ways.
Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
of respectful.
I know standing is respectful, but I don't remember ever hearing that taking a knee for the anthem is not respectful. I'd think there's more than one way to show respect for something, and maybe I missed
something, but I didn't think that just standing was the only mandated
way to show respect for the anthem.
Been a long time for the Browns. How is this year looking for them?
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm
don't see how it's so disrespectful or terrible for people to
take a knee, as some people say.
Well, if it's respectful to stand for the anthem, what would it be
to remain sitting, or to kneel? Yup, that's right - the opposite
of respectful.
I know standing is respectful, but I don't remember ever hearing that taking was the only mandated way to show respect for the anthem.
Perhaps if you asked a veteran, or a family member of a veteran
killed in action, you'd get an answer that would explain it.
Perhaps they'd be able to explain it better.
Nightfox
Part of the problem for many that don't like this is that they
come to (or watch on TV) sporting events because they like
*SPORTING* *EVENTS*. Period. It is not the place to bring your
"cause" to, because it's got TV cameras all over the place (which
is a main reason they do it). A ballgame is a place to get away
from the normal everyday bullshit we are all subjected to.
To refer to above comments, some people come to the church and do not pray at all,
don't react on moments when to knee and when to stand and all this rubbish actions
that for sure catholic church educates you to do.. does it mean behavior is offensi
to the faith and people should be crucified for it?
I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.
haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?
Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.
Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.
Now, I think we can agree taking a knee was a clear declaration of political affiliation. Much like singing "Cara Al Sol" in mass. Singing that is not an alternate way of doing anything, it is just a way of declaring yourself a follower of General Franco's Fascism. And it would not fly well among non-fascists.
A not-too-shabby 2-1 so far. They just won against Washington, which honestl could have gone either way, but always nice to see a win. They play Dallas next, so we'll see if they can keep the momentum going.
Arelor wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Tue Sep 29 2020 08:06 am
Part of the problem for many that don't like this is that they
come to (or watch on TV) sporting events because they like
*SPORTING* *EVENTS*. Period. It is not the place to bring your
"cause" to, because it's got TV cameras all over the place (which
is a main reason they do it). A ballgame is a place to get away
from the normal everyday bullshit we are all subjected to.
You know, something similar started happening to tabletop RPG
games, which has ruined a lot of games for me.
You try to have a very serious game about undead robots fighting
alien werevolves and then the manual throws you some political
message in order to ruin your fun.
HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.
I keep debating with myself if I should stop watching the NFL. Unfortunatly I love the game too much. I played the game myself
in Jr High and High school so I'm emotionally attached. I've been
watching very closely this disprespecting our flag and I must say
they have been behaving well. They even stopped a lot of the
"show boating" but they do get penalized for that now. I doubt
Kapernick will ever play in the NFL again. I hope it's a wake up
call to keep politics out of sports. If I see it again I will
definelty stop watching the NFL. Let them burn some buildings
down. Just keep your protests out of sports.
HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Nightfox on Mon Sep 28 2020 08:09 pm
Seems like some people get really offended by people taking a
knee, and I don't understand such an extreme reaction.
Because you STAND during the singing of the National Anthem.
It's not a debate open for discussion!
Not sure why you replied to me. It was Nightfox that you quoted
there above, not me. I do agree with your statement though.
Well, as I said, I haven't watched an NFL game in 4 years... but I
do recall in the last few weeks (opening day?) that they were
still doing it. Either kneeling or returning to the locker room
before the anthem was played. Just as bad, to me. Screw them.
Taking a knee is seen as a form of protest, and even thogh it's protesting police brutality against black people, it was done at that time of the game on purpose. It was done to get attention and stick out during a time poeple will notice it.
HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:45 am
Not sure why you replied to me. It was Nightfox that you quoted
there above, not me. I do agree with your statement though.
Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
been rushed.
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to Arelor on Mon Sep 28 2020 07:44 am
I gave up on that shit-show about 4 years ago when the whole
Kapernick bullshit started. Don't miss it a bit.
haha, do you care to explain what that was about, for those who
are not in the US?
Kapernick started the whole thing about kneeling during the
playing of the national anthem before games, as some sort of
"protest" against unfair treatment of black people. Many people
found (and still do) that to be disrespectful, and a lot of folks
gave up on the NFL (and basketball/NBA, and to some extent
baseball/MLB) because of it.
I keep debating with myself if I should stop watching the NFL. Unfortunatly love the game too much. I played the game myself in Jr High and High school I'm emotionally attached. I've been watching very closely this disprespectin our flag and I must say they have been behaving well. They even stopped a lo of the "show boating" but they do get penalized for that now. I doubt Kapern will ever play in the NFL again. I hope it's a wake up call to keep politics out of sports. If I see it again I will definelty stop watching the NFL. Let them burn some buildings down. Just keep your protests out of sports.
Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
been rushed.
Hmmmm.... Why replace the To: field at all? What's wrong with
replying to the person that you're replying to?
Hey great for them! Did they get a win last year? 2-1 is a great start!
HusTler wrote to Gamgee <=-
Re: Re: NFL
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Wed Sep 30 2020 07:35 pm
Sorry. I normally replace the To: field with All. I must have
been rushed.
Hmmmm.... Why replace the To: field at all? What's wrong with
replying to the person that you're replying to?
Because too many users get their rocks off pointing out who the
reply was to.
This an open forum open to discussion to everyone.
Again my apolgies. It won't happen again.
Yeah, they went 6-10 last season. They've been piss-poor to mediocre for yea Still entertaining to watch, for the most part :)
Again my apolgies. It won't happen again.
No need to apologize. Just wanted to point out that you're doing
things differently than everybody else. Why do something that
actually *INCREASES* the chances of things getting confused? Just
do it the established and standard way... Cheers.
Ok.. I'll be more careful. That said the Jets LOST again! They are now 0-3. This is going to be a long season. The Networks force you to watch the local teams so I'm stuck watching the Jets and Giants. Ack!
Im thinking of the Bengles season
Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?
Re: NFL
By: HusTler to All on Sun Sep 27 2020 12:01 pm
Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?
I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)
Any football fans on Dovenet. That is are there any NFL fans? I'm a New Yorker so my teams are the Jets and Giants. What's yours?
I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)
DaiTengu
I live just south of Green Bay, so ..... ;)
I'm a BIG Green Bay Fan. Rogers still amazes me. Last night they moved to 4-0.
He's doing great this year, I don't know if it's LaFeur, or if he has less distractions in his personal life.
Maybe it's a combination of the two. He and LaFleur seem to genuinely like e other.
DaiTengu
Andeddu wrote to All <=-
Who's winning Super Bowl LVII?
The Buffalo Bills are solid this year and are looking like
favourites to me.
Surprised at how well The Dallas Cowboys are doing with their
second string QB Cooper Rush. I have always had a soft spot for
them.
The LA Rams are fairly mediocre. I'd be surprised if they made
the playoffs.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Who's winning Super Bowl LVII?
The Buffalo Bills are solid this year and are looking like favourites to me.
Screw the NFL.
It's almost hockey season.
I follow college football more than pro. I did see a piece last night (actually twice) where they were advertising an NFL program and they seemed high on the LA Rams still, which is different than your analysis.
I think Miami was a contender until Tua got hurt... twice. That seemed to take some air out of their sails for sure.
If the Bills can stay healthy they have a great chance. Right now they have a ton of injuries. Fingers Crossed. :)
I am new to US sports being a football (soccer) follower for almost my entire existence. I have suddenly had an odd interest in the NFL over
the last year or so though.
I see ESPN are still high on the Rams for some reason. I don't quite get it as they were outsiders in the playoffs last season and it was
somewhat of a miracle to see them pick up the Super Bowl. I know they're favourites vs Dallas this weekend but I can foresee an upset. I hope Dak isn't playing again, he should take another week off to ensure recovery.
The Eagles are looking sharp obviously, being 4-0, so I wouldn't see
past them either... they should cruise past the Cardinals.
Seems like Tua should take a few more weeks off now as that head injury could have long-term effects on him. I can see why the coach played him, given that he passed all the concussion protocols provided by the NFL
and was signed off by the team doctor. It was just a big horrific seeing him throwing up gang signs after taking a massive clobbering...
If the Bills can stay healthy they have a great chance. Right now they a ton of injuries. Fingers Crossed. :)
I hope so too! If any organisation's players/fans deserve to pick up a Super Bowl trophy, it's the Bills!
by the team doctor. It was just a big horrific seeing him throwing up gang signs after taking a massive clobbering...
Just curious, what NFL teeam you routing for if any?
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Cooper Rush is playing awesome too, so why rush Dak is right!!
Being a Giants fan, I hope not. But you are probably right. I think eagles are a lot better than the Cardinals, but you never know what can happen on any given Sunday!!
Yeah, its never really bothered me seeing guys get banged up with arms and legs, etc... But head injuries are a scary thing. I thought it was scary enough watching Daniel Jones stumble to the sidelines last year after getting clobbered, but seeing Tua's hands like that you sorta knew it was something serious..
Yeah, Wide right still hurts. I feel they have the team this year. If injuries keep them from being that team it would suck. I say this because it's so hard to keep players for long like the old days. I'm afraid that if they don't do it this year it might not happen.
cozmo
by the team doctor. It was just a big horrific seeing him throwing up gang signs after taking a massive clobbering...
That was not his demeanor in college so that seemed a little off.
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