• Newbie question

    From David Gonzalez@VERT to All on Sun Nov 24 17:51:22 2024
    Hello All!

    I remember synchro from my old fidonet days when I moved to Windows back in 1999 and found it very cool but a hugmoungus mnster filled with options -- do not get me wrong, I would live to move away from Mystic (or use them both).

    I've compiled and let's say configured Synchronet on a linux VM, I've tried reading through the wiki with no much luck on getting all of the pieces together.

    Ready:
    - BBS (stock), I can login and you know browse around
    - echocfg, I setup a test node 4:930/10 and some echomail local areas and connection to my main node.

    Not ready: (looging for documenatrtion)
    - BinkP setup toss, scan, areafix, filefix
    - Translate menus and prompts int spanish, I saw the option to change Language but the funny thing is that the only thing changed into spanish is the Language prompt to Idioma, so all the resty keeps beng in english.


    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400
    ---
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to David Gonzalez on Sun Nov 24 16:14:05 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to All on Sun Nov 24 2024 05:51 pm

    Not ready: (looging for documenatrtion)
    - BinkP setup toss, scan, areafix, filefix

    See https://wiki.synchro.net/howto:fidonet for the script that automates much of that.

    - Translate menus and prompts int spanish, I saw the option to change Language but the funny thing is that the only thing changed into spanish is the Language prompt to Idioma, so all the resty keeps beng in english.

    See ctrl/text.es.ini for the strings that have been translated so far (not many). Feel free to correct or add more!
    https://wiki.synchro.net/custom:text.ini
    --
    digital man (rob)

    Synchronet/BBS Terminology Definition #67:
    SAUCE = Standard Architecture for Universal Comment Extensions (ACiD)
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  • From Gamgee@VERT/PALANTIR to David Gonzalez on Sun Nov 24 18:41:34 2024
    David Gonzalez wrote to All <=-

    I've compiled and let's say configured Synchronet on a linux VM, I've tried reading through the wiki with no much luck on getting all of the pieces together.

    Ready:
    - BBS (stock), I can login and you know browse around
    - echocfg, I setup a test node 4:930/10 and some echomail local areas
    and connection to my main node.

    Not ready: (looging for documenatrtion)
    - BinkP setup toss, scan, areafix, filefix

    Start with a look at "Binkit" (mailer) and "SBBSEcho" (tosser) on the
    Wiki.

    - Translate menus and prompts int spanish, I saw the option to change Language but the funny thing is that the only thing changed into
    spanish is the Language prompt to Idioma, so all the resty keeps beng
    in english.

    You'll have to create/modify your own menu display files for that.
    Start with the "Customization" section on the Wiki.


    ... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    � Synchronet � Palantir BBS * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL
  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to Gamgee on Mon Nov 25 07:52:45 2024
    Hello Gamgee!

    24 Nov 24 18:41, you wrote to me:

    David Gonzalez wrote to All <=-

    I've compiled and let's say configured Synchronet on a linux VM,
    I've tried reading through the wiki with no much luck on getting
    all of the pieces together.

    Ready:
    - BBS (stock), I can login and you know browse around
    - echocfg, I setup a test node 4:930/10 and some echomail local
    areas and connection to my main node.

    Not ready: (looging for documenatrtion)
    - BinkP setup toss, scan, areafix, filefix

    Start with a look at "Binkit" (mailer) and "SBBSEcho" (tosser) on the Wiki.

    I'll have a deeper loo at that, maybe there were some things I've overlooked.

    - Translate menus and prompts int spanish, I saw the option to
    change Language but the funny thing is that the only thing
    changed into spanish is the Language prompt to Idioma, so all the
    resty keeps beng in english.

    You'll have to create/modify your own menu display files for that.
    Start with the "Customization" section on the Wiki.

    Yup, to the TO-DO list

    Many thanks

    ... Gone crazy, be back later, please leave message.
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    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400
    ---
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  • From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Mon Nov 25 09:52:45 2024
    On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 07:52:45 -0500
    "David Gonzalez" (VERT) <VERT![email protected]> wrote:
    When are you going to fix this?
    Unless you put it there on purpose to confuse everyone?
    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0 SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31 SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848
    770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400

    ---
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    [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
    --
    End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
    telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
    ---
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to nelgin on Mon Nov 25 14:36:48 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: nelgin to All on Mon Nov 25 2024 09:52 am

    On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 07:52:45 -0500
    "David Gonzalez" (VERT) <VERT![email protected]> wrote: When are you going to fix this?
    Unless you put it there on purpose to confuse everyone?
    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0 SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31 SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848
    770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400


    when are you going to learn to reply and quote correctly.

    you are embedding your text inside his and also replying to all.
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Nightfox@VERT/DIGDIST to MRO on Mon Nov 25 14:45:17 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: MRO to nelgin on Mon Nov 25 2024 02:36 pm

    you are embedding your text inside his and also replying to all.

    I think some of his messages are being sent to "All" because he's using a news reader.

    Nightfox

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  • From deon@VERT/ALTERANT to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 19:28:10 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to Gamgee on Mon Nov 25 2024 07:52 am

    Howdy,

    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0 SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31 SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400

    Your messages have SEEN-BY's after them.

    Under normal conditions they are not shown by default - so not sure why they are should with your messages.


    ...����

    ---
    � Synchronet � AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSI
  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to deon on Tue Nov 26 07:41:16 2024
    Hello deon!

    26 Nov 24 19:28, you wrote to me:

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to Gamgee on Mon Nov 25 2024 07:52 am

    Howdy,

    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0
    221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1
    310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848
    770/1
    SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400

    Your messages have SEEN-BY's after them.

    Under normal conditions they are not shown by default - so not sure
    why they are should with your messages.

    It's weird, I have not enabled those,

    ...����

    ---
    � Synchronet � AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSI
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    David
    ---ORIGIN Still fixing it
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
    ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to nelgin on Tue Nov 26 07:43:01 2024
    Hello nelgin!

    25 Nov 24 09:52, you wrote to All:

    Sorry hgow old are you?, if you're frudtrated don't take it on other people, even less to me.

    On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 07:52:45 -0500
    "David Gonzalez" (VERT) <VERT![email protected]>
    wrote: When are you going to fix this? Unless you put it there on
    purpose to confuse everyone?

    Sure, maybe I want to confuse people... come on man, let this please be the last time I see message slike this from you.

    There can be misconfigurations, if it doesn't happen to you, good for you.

    -+-
    David G

    * Origin: SkyNet BBS
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
    ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 12:07:53 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to nelgin on Tue Nov 26 2024 07:43:01

    Sure, maybe I want to confuse people... come on man, let this please be the last time I see message slike this from you.

    Touchy.

    Trust me, you'll never hear from me again. Adios.

    ---
    � Synchronet � End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From nelgin@VERT/EOTLBBS to All on Tue Nov 26 13:08:29 2024
    On Tue, 26 Nov 2024 07:41:16 -0500
    "David Gonzalez" (VERT) <VERT![email protected]> wrote:
    Hello deon!

    26 Nov 24 19:28, you wrote to me:

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to Gamgee on Mon Nov 25 2024 07:52 am

    Howdy,

    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0
    221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1
    310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848
    770/1
    SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400

    Your messages have SEEN-BY's after them.

    Under normal conditions they are not shown by default - so not
    sure why they are should with your messages.

    It's weird, I have not enabled those,

    ...����

    ---
    � Synchronet � AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSI
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    David
    ---ORIGIN Still fixing it
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0 SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31 SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848
    770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400

    ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet �
    [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
    How come I get this "Sorry hgow old are you?, if you're frudtrated(sic)
    don't take it on other people, even less to me." and "come on man, let
    this please be the last time I see message slike(sic) this from you."
    buillshit from David and you get "It's weird"? haha.
    What a nugget.
    --
    End Of The Line BBS - Plano, TX
    telnet endofthelinebbs.com 23
    ---
    � Synchronet � End Of The Line BBS - endofthelinebbs.com
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to deon on Tue Nov 26 15:41:37 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: deon to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 2024 07:28 pm

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to Gamgee on Mon Nov 25 2024 07:52 am

    Howdy,

    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0 SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31 SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400

    Your messages have SEEN-BY's after them.

    Under normal conditions they are not shown by default - so not sure why

    they
    are should with your messages.


    X-FTN-AREA SYNCHRONET
    X-FTN-PATH 930/1 902/26 280/464
    X-FTN-MSGID 4:930/1 6743afb4
    X-FTN-PID GED+W32 1.1.5-b20180707
    X-FTN-TID Mystic BBS 1.12 A48

    it's an issue with whatever he's using to post.

    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 15:43:34 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to nelgin on Tue Nov 26 2024 07:43 am

    Hello nelgin!

    25 Nov 24 09:52, you wrote to All:

    Sorry hgow old are you?, if you're frudtrated don't take it on other people, even less to me.

    On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 07:52:45 -0500
    "David Gonzalez" (VERT) <VERT![email protected]>


    nelgin is the guy who 'hates me' and accuses me of doing what he does.
    he's been called out on his behavior several times.

    you do need to look into your software and see where you messed up.
    nobody died because of it, though.
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to nelgin on Tue Nov 26 15:44:00 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: nelgin to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 2024 12:07 pm

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to nelgin on Tue Nov 26 2024 07:43:01

    Sure, maybe I want to confuse people... come on man, let this please be the last time I see message slike this from you.

    Touchy.

    Trust me, you'll never hear from me again. Adios.

    can you do that for everybody?
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to MRO on Tue Nov 26 17:18:14 2024
    Hola MRO!, saludo cordial

    26 Nov 24 15:43, tu escribi(ste) a ti:

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to nelgin on Tue Nov 26 2024 07:43 am

    Hello nelgin!

    25 Nov 24 09:52, you wrote to All:

    Sorry hgow old are you?, if you're frudtrated don't take it on
    other people, even less to me.

    On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 07:52:45 -0500
    "David Gonzalez" (VERT)
    <VERT![email protected]>


    nelgin is the guy who 'hates me' and accuses me of doing what he does. he's been called out on his behavior several times.

    Well, this world is filled with those a.. anywho!, that kinda ppl are the ones who go to schools and you know...

    Whos so dumb to take the time to trash others instead of helping, but bite me

    you do need to look into your software and see where you messed up. nobody died because of it, though.

    Fortunately, but I'm still with the undelying issue, I cannot seem to be able to send netmails from SBB, I setup the area and all normal steps, but I don't se as I do on Mystic a clear indicator that the are is Netmail... I see private, networked, so on but I'm overwhelmed by the humongus amount of options. I'm still learning or re-learning all of this, remembering and trying to put the pieces together.

    Regards.

    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    --
    Saludos/Kind Regards
    David
    - SysOp SkyNet BBS
    - telnet://bbs.skynet.com:20023
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
    ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to MRO on Tue Nov 26 17:24:35 2024
    Hola MRO!, saludo cordial

    26 Nov 24 15:41, tu escribi(ste) a deon:

    Synchronet BBS, from within the BBS, LoL

    Re: Newbie question
    By: deon to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 2024 07:28 pm

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to Gamgee on Mon Nov 25 2024 07:52 am

    Howdy,

    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0
    221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1
    310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280
    712/848 770/1
    SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 5020/400

    Your messages have SEEN-BY's after them.

    Under normal conditions they are not shown by default - so not sure
    why

    they
    are should with your messages.


    X-FTN-AREA SYNCHRONET
    X-FTN-PATH 930/1 902/26 280/464
    X-FTN-MSGID 4:930/1 6743afb4
    X-FTN-PID GED+W32 1.1.5-b20180707
    X-FTN-TID Mystic BBS 1.12 A48

    it's an issue with whatever he's using to post.

    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    --
    Saludos/Kind Regards
    David
    - SysOp SkyNet BBS
    - telnet://bbs.skynet.com:20023
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
    ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to MRO on Tue Nov 26 17:25:01 2024
    Hola MRO!, saludo cordial

    26 Nov 24 15:44, tu escribi(ste) a nelgin:


    LMFFFFFSAO

    Have him banned and strap him down, people like that should not be around otehr people.

    Re: Newbie question
    By: nelgin to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 2024 12:07 pm

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to nelgin on Tue Nov 26 2024 07:43:01

    Sure, maybe I want to confuse people... come on man, let this
    please be
    the last time I see message slike this from you.

    Touchy.

    Trust me, you'll never hear from me again. Adios.

    can you do that for everybody?
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    --
    Saludos/Kind Regards
    David
    - SysOp SkyNet BBS
    - telnet://bbs.skynet.com:20023
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
    ---
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From Nicholas Boel@VERT to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 17:11:01 2024
    Hello David,

    On Tue, Nov 26 2024 16:24:35 -0600, you wrote:

    Synchronet BBS, from within the BBS, LoL

    Don't give misinformation, please. THE PID clearly says you're using Golded to write the message.

    I've already given you the fix a few times now, so either you're not getting every message, or you're not reading all of them.

    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 104/119 124/5016 129/215 153/757 154/10 30 50 SEEN-BY: 154/700 203/0 220/20 90 221/0 6 226/18 44 50 229/310 426 240/1120 SEEN-BY: 240/5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31 341/66 234 396/45 SEEN-BY: 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 SEEN-BY: 902/26 930/1 10 2320/105 3634/12 5020/400

    You can have these back. We don't need them. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
    --- SBBSecho 3.23-Linux
    * Origin: _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin) (1:154/700)
    � Synchronet � Vertrauen � Home of Synchronet � [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net
  • From deon@VERT/ALTERANT to MRO on Wed Nov 27 09:47:49 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: MRO to deon on Tue Nov 26 2024 03:41 pm

    Howdy,

    X-FTN-AREA SYNCHRONET
    X-FTN-PATH 930/1 902/26 280/464
    X-FTN-MSGID 4:930/1 6743afb4
    X-FTN-PID GED+W32 1.1.5-b20180707
    X-FTN-TID Mystic BBS 1.12 A48

    it's an issue with whatever he's using to post.

    Well, I think it's because Golded is being used, and its not appending an Origin line to his messages.

    Origin lines are however optional (as per FTS-4), which means SEEN-BY lines are probably not being detected - and I see Rob has created a issue to address that sometime.

    I have the same problem with clrghouz, which I'll need to fix too.


    ...����

    ---
    � Synchronet � AnsiTEX bringing back videotex but with ANSI
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 19:20:18 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to MRO on Tue Nov 26 2024 05:18 pm

    Fortunately, but I'm still with the undelying issue, I cannot seem to be able to send netmails from SBB, I setup the area and all normal steps, but I don't se as I do on Mystic a clear indicator that the are is Netmail... I see private, networked, so on but I'm overwhelmed by the humongus amount of options. I'm still learning or re-learning all of this, remembering and trying to put the pieces together.

    Regards.

    if you are having problems with synchronet, make sure you are posting
    actual screenshots of your configuration.

    really, this stuff isnt hard. if an idiot like me can set it up and then fix other people's setup you can do it. you just made a mistake someplace and need to find the mistake.

    maybe find someone you can trust and have them remote desktop you with teamviewer.
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to David Gonzalez on Tue Nov 26 19:22:49 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to MRO on Tue Nov 26 2024 05:24 pm


    it's an issue with whatever he's using to post.


    Hola MRO!, saludo cordial

    26 Nov 24 15:41, tu escribi(ste) a deon:

    Synchronet BBS, from within the BBS, LoL


    make sure you reply on the bottom.

    so you are on synchronet bbs and posting, so why does it have
    those tags for golded and mystic?
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to deon on Tue Nov 26 19:25:48 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: deon to MRO on Wed Nov 27 2024 09:47 am

    X-FTN-PID GED+W32 1.1.5-b20180707
    X-FTN-TID Mystic BBS 1.12 A48

    it's an issue with whatever he's using to post.

    Well, I think it's because Golded is being used, and its not appending an Origin line to his messages.

    i used golded before with synchronet and i never had those problems.

    he just needs to retrace his steps and find his error. also i'm sure nick gave him the correct info.
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@VERT to deon on Wed Nov 27 09:38:02 2024
    Hi deon,

    On 2024-11-27 09:47:49, you wrote to MRO:

    Origin lines are however optional (as per FTS-4),

    It doesn't say that! It says:

    "Although the Origin line is not required by all Echomail processors, it is added by the Conference Mail System to ensure complete compatibility."

    It is not very clear wording, but I read that as software that creates echomail messages should always add the origin line. But software that processes echomail, should be flexible when it is not present.

    fsc-0074.001, the supposed succesor of fts-0004.001, has much clearer wording, and leaves no room for interpretation: "There shall be exactly one origin line in a message."

    I don't know why fsc-0074 never made it as fts-0004.002. It was drafted between 06 Jun 1991 and 28 July 1993. Maybe if someone has archived the contents of the private FTSC area, this can be made clear?


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From deon@VERT/ALTERANT to Wilfred van Velzen on Wed Nov 27 21:07:32 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to deon on Wed Nov 27 2024 09:38 am

    Hey Wilfred,

    It doesn't say that! It says:

    "Although the Origin line is not required by all Echomail processors, it is added by the Conference Mail System to ensure complete compatibility."

    It is not very clear wording, but I read that as software that creates echomail messages should always add the origin line. But software that processes echomail, should be flexible when it is not present.

    I'm not going to 100% agree with you on this one.

    In FTS-0004, in the section about Origin lines (which is point 3), the wording as you have quoted "not required by all..." and "added... complete compatibility" indicates to me that it is not (absolutely) required, but rather useful if it is added.

    Further, point 1 (Area Line), and point 4 (Seen-by Lines), explicitly states that these control fields are required. So if point 3 was required, I would expect it to explicitly state that too.

    Certainly I agree that FSC-0074 does make this clearer and states that they are required. It probably should have been promoted to a technical standard, but wasnt, for whatever reasons it never made it?


    ...����

    ---
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  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to MRO on Wed Nov 27 07:02:24 2024
    Hola MRO!, saludo cordial

    26 Nov 24 19:20, tu escribi(ste) a ti:

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to MRO on Tue Nov 26 2024 05:18 pm

    Fortunately, but I'm still with the undelying issue, I cannot seem
    to be able to send netmails from SBB, I setup the area and all
    normal steps, but I don't se as I do on Mystic a clear indicator
    that the are is Netmail... I see private, networked, so on but I'm
    overwhelmed by the humongus amount of options. I'm still learning
    or re-learning all of this, remembering and trying to put the
    pieces together.

    Regards.

    if you are having problems with synchronet, make sure you are posting actual screenshots of your configuration.

    really, this stuff isnt hard. if an idiot like me can set it up and
    then fix other people's setup you can do it. you just made a mistake someplace and need to find the mistake.

    I've tried but I'm kinda overwhelmed with the amount of options, I tried a basic BinkD+Crashmail+GoldED and it worked, for some reason Synch which is two curses driven things and binkit AFAIK str giving me a hard time.

    Screnshot here would be hard I guess.

    maybe find someone you can trust and have them remote desktop you with teamviewer.

    Unfortunately not many people willing to do so, on my zone there are some sysops running it but I just see *check the wiki* or just silence replaced for aanother tppic after a while.

    I know it may not be hard but for some readson I have that netmail issue.

    Hope this message goes w/out the kludge lines because I do not see them.

    Thanks for your cheering up
    --
    Saludos/Kind Regards
    David
    - SysOp SkyNet BBS
    - telnet://bbs.skynet.com:20023
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
    ---
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@VERT to deon on Wed Nov 27 16:25:03 2024
    Hi deon,

    On 2024-11-27 21:07:32, you wrote to me:

    It doesn't say that! It says:

    "Although the Origin line is not required by all Echomail processors, it is
    added by the Conference Mail System to ensure complete compatibility."

    It is not very clear wording, but I read that as software that creates
    echomail messages should always add the origin line. But software that
    processes echomail, should be flexible when it is not present.

    I'm not going to 100% agree with you on this one.

    In FTS-0004, in the section about Origin lines (which is point 3), the wording
    as you have quoted "not required by all..." and "added... complete compatibility" indicates to me that it is not (absolutely) required, but rather useful if it is added.

    I think that is putting it to weakly. And you leave out important parts of the sentence: "Echomail processors"...

    Echomail composing software should always add an origin line. As is made clear in fsc-0074.

    Further, point 1 (Area Line), and point 4 (Seen-by Lines), explicitly states that these control fields are required. So if point 3 was
    required, I would expect it to explicitly state that too.

    Your expectations are irrelevant, in such a poorly drafted document! ;-)

    Certainly I agree that FSC-0074 does make this clearer and states that they are required. It probably should have been promoted to a
    technical standard, but wasnt, for whatever reasons it never made it?

    And that is probably unfortunately lost in history. But you are an ftsc member, so you can put this on the agenda!


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to David Gonzalez on Wed Nov 27 14:58:56 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to MRO on Wed Nov 27 2024 07:02 am

    if you are having problems with synchronet, make sure you are posting actual screenshots of your configuration.


    Screnshot here would be hard I guess.


    what?

    Hope this message goes w/out the kludge lines because I do not see them.


    your post had the lines. did you try to change something?
    ---
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  • From CJ@VERT/CJSPLACE to MRO on Thu Nov 28 06:51:53 2024
    MRO wrote to David Gonzalez <=-

    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to MRO on Wed Nov 27 2024 07:02 am

    if you are having problems with synchronet, make sure you are posting actual screenshots of your configuration.


    Screnshot here would be hard I guess.


    what?

    Hope this message goes w/out the kludge lines because I do not see them.


    your post had the lines. did you try to change something?

    Forgive me if this is a silly question, but wouldn't the problem lie somewhere in the chain of systems in the SEEN-BY lines? I mean, if the message is originating from his system there would be no SEEN-BY lines (other than maybe his own node) at the time the message is sent.



    Chris (CJ)
    SysOp - CJ's Place BBS

    ... "Don't ask me. I just write here" =)
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to CJ on Thu Nov 28 07:37:52 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: CJ to MRO on Thu Nov 28 2024 06:51 am

    Hope this message goes w/out the kludge lines because I do not see them.


    your post had the lines. did you try to change something?

    Forgive me if this is a silly question, but wouldn't the problem lie somewhere in the chain of systems in the SEEN-BY lines? I mean, if the message is originating from his system there would be no SEEN-BY lines (other than maybe his own node) at the time the message is sent.


    i've seen this before and the kluge lines were normally the originator's fault. i havent dealt with this stuff for like 15 years so i can't remember. i was never a ftn expert but i set it up on my own and joined multiple networks with no issues.

    right now we dont know what the dude is doing other than he's ignoring help from nick and he's overwealmed by the settings. he has not posted his configuration as well.
    ---
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  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to All on Thu Nov 28 07:26:53 2024
    Hello CJ,

    On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:51:53 -0600, you wrote ..

    Forgive me if this is a silly question, but wouldn't the problem lie somewhere in the chain of systems in the SEEN-BY lines? I mean, if
    the message is originating from his system there would be no SEEN-BY
    lines (other than maybe his own node) at the time the message is sent.

    It's not a silly question, but the answer is no. While the SEEN-BYs keep getting added to the message as it gets passed around, his original message doesn't have a tearline or origin line, which is why the SEEN-BYs are not hidden on software that specifically only hides them if there is a tearline and origin line.

    It seems Golded hides them no matter if there's a tearline and origin line, which is why the original poster doesn't see them.

    Looks like Rob/Digital Man has opened a ticket to address this issue on Synchronet's end, so possibly soon we won't have to see them either. Only downside is that it won't be as easy to see (of course, no tearline and origin line will still be noticeable) when someone has a misconfigured system, but at least we won't have to suffer if they don't choose to fix it. :)

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... Take my advice, I don't use it anyway.
    ---
    � Synchronet � _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From Digital Man@VERT to CJ on Thu Nov 28 11:14:39 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: CJ to MRO on Thu Nov 28 2024 06:51 am

    Forgive me if this is a silly question, but wouldn't the problem lie somewhere in the chain of systems in the SEEN-BY lines? I mean, if the message is originating from his system there would be no SEEN-BY lines (other than maybe his own node) at the time the message is sent.

    The problem is the original messge does not have an origin line.
    --
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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Accession on Thu Nov 28 11:16:46 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Accession to All on Thu Nov 28 2024 07:26 am

    Looks like Rob/Digital Man has opened a ticket to address this issue on Synchronet's end, so possibly soon we won't have to see them either. Only downside is that it won't be as easy to see (of course, no tearline and origin line will still be noticeable) when someone has a misconfigured system, but at least we won't have to suffer if they don't choose to fix it. :)

    I'm not in any hurry to address this in SBBSecho. The problem is with the originator's configuration: they need an origin line in their echomail messages. It's a critical source of metadata (the originator's address) in all echomail messages.
    --
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    This Is Spinal Tap quote #22:
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Thu Nov 28 16:57:23 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Accession to All on Thu Nov 28 2024 07:26 am

    It's not a silly question, but the answer is no. While the SEEN-BYs keep getting added to the message as it gets passed around, his original message doesn't have a tearline or origin line, which is why the SEEN-BYs are not hidden on software that specifically only hides them if there is a tearline and origin line.


    oh THAT's why. i've always made sure i have my origin line on.
    maybe i'll remote desktop this guy this weekend if i feel like it.

    oh i tried to connect to his bbs. it's not connectable.
    i am not even sure if that's the correct domain.

    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to Digital Man on Thu Nov 28 17:55:07 2024
    Hello Digital,

    On Thu, Nov 28 2024 13:16:46 -0600, you wrote ..

    I'm not in any hurry to address this in SBBSecho. The problem is
    with the originator's configuration: they need an origin line in
    their echomail messages. It's a critical source of metadata (the
    originator's address) in all echomail messages.

    Understood and you know this, I know this, and others know this.
    However, the half a dozen or more times the solution has been given to
    the originator it has gone completely ignored. There's only so much we
    can do. You can lead a horse to water etc etc. *shrug*

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
    ---
    � Synchronet � _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
  • From Accession@VERT/PHARCYDE to All on Thu Nov 28 18:31:08 2024
    Hello Mro,

    On Thu, Nov 28 2024 16:57:23 -0600, you wrote ..

    oh THAT's why. i've always made sure i have my origin line on.
    maybe i'll remote desktop this guy this weekend if i feel like it.

    Might be better off that way, to be honest.

    oh i tried to connect to his bbs. it's not connectable. i am not
    even sure if that's the correct domain.

    No idea on the rest of his situation. He seems to be trying to install
    10 things at once and has none of them configured properly. Then gets
    mad and defensive when people get frustrated trying to help him and he
    doesn't listen, completely ignores, or doesn't follow instructions very
    well at all.

    Eventually, people will just stop trying to help. *shrug*

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
    ---
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Thu Nov 28 20:02:21 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Accession to Digital Man on Thu Nov 28 2024 05:55 pm

    Hello Digital,

    On Thu, Nov 28 2024 13:16:46 -0600, you wrote ..

    I'm not in any hurry to address this in SBBSecho. The problem is
    with the originator's configuration: they need an origin line in
    their echomail messages. It's a critical source of metadata (the originator's address) in all echomail messages.

    Understood and you know this, I know this, and others know this.
    However, the half a dozen or more times the solution has been given to
    the originator it has gone completely ignored. There's only so much we
    can do. You can lead a horse to water etc etc. *shrug*


    Well you can't fix stupid. You can't do a work around each time someone does something stupid. Remember a while back a person wanted DM to lock out new users from posting by default in the bbs software because there were a few spammers?

    The best thing to do is warn the person, tell them to use a testing area only, and if they won't abide, block them.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Accession on Thu Nov 28 20:10:06 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Accession to All on Thu Nov 28 2024 06:31 pm


    No idea on the rest of his situation. He seems to be trying to install
    10 things at once and has none of them configured properly. Then gets
    mad and defensive when people get frustrated trying to help him and he doesn't listen, completely ignores, or doesn't follow instructions very
    well at all.

    Eventually, people will just stop trying to help. *shrug*

    the reason why i think the domain he is using isnt his is because it's bbs.skynet.com. that domain is setup to direct to telesat.com. also that domain goes back to 92. and there's no bbs.skynet.com subdomain. skynet.com COULD be his, but that would surprise me.

    My opinion is this guy seems rushed and indecisive from what i've seen on line. he should delete everything and then set it up again and only use test areas.

    Maybe he shouldn't even BE a sysop, maybe just be a user.
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From Wilfred van Velzen@VERT to MRO on Fri Nov 29 11:17:38 2024
    Hi MRO,

    On 2024-11-28 20:10:06, you wrote to Accession:

    Maybe he shouldn't even BE a sysop, maybe just be a user.

    It's worse:

    Region,930,Colombia,Colombia,David_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,33600,ICM,XA,V34,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com
    ,1,Colombia,Colombia,Davia_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Nov 29 17:13:10 2024
    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Wilfred van Velzen to MRO on Fri Nov 29 2024 11:17 am


    Maybe he shouldn't even BE a sysop, maybe just be a user.

    It's worse:

    Region,930,Colombia,Colombia,David_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,33600,ICM,XA,V34,I BN: bbs.skynetbbs.com ,1,Colombia,Colombia,Davia_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,300, CM,XA,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.c om


    atleast there his domain is correct.

    in his sig it says
    "Saludos/Kind Regards
    David
    - SysOp SkyNet BBS
    - telnet://bbs.skynet.com:20023 "
    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
  • From CJ@VERT/CJSPLACE to Accession on Fri Nov 29 23:28:46 2024
    Accession wrote to All <=-

    Hello CJ,

    On Thu, 28 Nov 2024 05:51:53 -0600, you wrote ..

    Forgive me if this is a silly question, but wouldn't the problem lie somewhere in the chain of systems in the SEEN-BY lines? I mean, if
    the message is originating from his system there would be no SEEN-BY
    lines (other than maybe his own node) at the time the message is sent.

    It's not a silly question, but the answer is no. While the SEEN-BYs
    keep getting added to the message as it gets passed around, his
    original message doesn't have a tearline or origin line, which is why
    the SEEN-BYs are not hidden on software that specifically only hides
    them if there is a tearline and origin line.

    Ah....makes sense now. Thanks for the explanation!

    Chris (CJ)
    SysOp - CJ's Place BBS

    ... Z80 programmers do it 8 bits at a time.
    --- MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    � Synchronet � CJ's Place, Orange City, FL - cjsplace.thruhere.net
  • From CJ@VERT/CJSPLACE to MRO on Fri Nov 29 23:28:46 2024
    MRO wrote to CJ <=-

    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: CJ to MRO on Thu Nov 28 2024 06:51 am

    Hope this message goes w/out the kludge lines because I do not see them.


    your post had the lines. did you try to change something?

    Forgive me if this is a silly question, but wouldn't the problem lie somewhere in the chain of systems in the SEEN-BY lines? I mean, if the message is originating from his system there would be no SEEN-BY lines (other than maybe his own node) at the time the message is sent.


    i've seen this before and the kluge lines were normally the
    originator's fault. i havent dealt with this stuff for like 15 years so
    i can't remember. i was never a ftn expert but i set it up on my own
    and joined multiple networks with no issues.

    right now we dont know what the dude is doing other than he's ignoring help from nick and he's overwealmed by the settings. he has not posted his configuration as well. ---

    Thanks MRO. I also saw the reply from Accession. It makes sense to me now. :)

    Chris (CJ)
    SysOp - CJ's Place BBS

    ... You might have mail, I can't recall.
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  • From mro@VERT to CJ on Fri Nov 29 23:22:15 2024
    To: CJ
    right now we dont know what the dude is doing other than he's ignorin help from nick and he's overwealmed by the settings. he has not posted his configuration as well. ---

    Thanks MRO. I also saw the reply from Accession. It makes sense to me now.

    Chris (CJ) SysOp - CJ's Place BBS


    it could be worse. he could be flooding the network with dupes and have that shit under there so it doesnt get caught. i've seen that before too.

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  • From Dan Clough@VERT to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Nov 29 14:10:41 2024
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to MRO <=-

    Maybe he shouldn't even BE a sysop, maybe just be a user.

    It's worse:


    Region,930,Colombia,Colombia,David_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,33600,ICM,XA,V34,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com

    ,1,Colombia,Colombia,Davia_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com


    A person with this lack of knowledge should not even be an RC in the
    first place. It looks like he just picked random flags and decided to
    use them.

    I guess Zone 4 is a shambles anyway and this is par for the course.



    ... Daddy, what does "now formatting drive C:" mean?
    === MultiMail/Linux v0.52
    --- SBBSecho 3.22-Linux
    * Origin: Palantir * palantirbbs.ddns.net * Pensacola, FL * (1:135/115)
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  • From Dan Clough@VERT to Wilfred van Velzen on Fri Nov 29 21:29:08 2024
    Wilfred van Velzen wrote to Dan Clough <=-

    I guess Zone 4 is a shambles anyway and this is par for the course.

    They are in the proces of reorganising the zone right now. The ZC is going through a steep learning curve regarding the nodelist content. These lines will improve in the coming days/weeks...

    I hope you're right, but I wouldn't put any money on that.



    ... Never assume the obvious is true!
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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@VERT to Dan Clough on Fri Nov 29 21:31:22 2024
    Hi Dan,

    On 2024-11-29 14:10:41, you wrote to me:

    Maybe he shouldn't even BE a sysop, maybe just be a user.

    It's worse:


    Region,930,Colombia,Colombia,David_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,33600,ICM,XA,V34,IBN
    :bbs.skynetbbs.com

    ,1,Colombia,Colombia,Davia_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,IBN:bbs.sk ynetbbs.com

    A person with this lack of knowledge should not even be an RC in the
    first place.

    I think the net and region are just there for administrative purposes because he is in a different country as the rest of the zone. You could solve it differently of course, but that is up to the ZC.

    It looks like he just picked random flags and decided to use them.

    I don't think he created those entries himself.

    I guess Zone 4 is a shambles anyway and this is par for the course.

    They are in the proces of reorganising the zone right now. The ZC is going through a steep learning curve regarding the nodelist content. These lines will improve in the coming days/weeks...

    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Wilfred van Velzen@VERT to Dan Clough on Sat Nov 30 11:23:29 2024
    Hi Dan,

    On 2024-11-29 21:29:08, you wrote to me:

    I guess Zone 4 is a shambles anyway and this is par for the course.

    They are in the proces of reorganising the zone right now. The ZC is
    going through a steep learning curve regarding the nodelist content.
    These lines will improve in the coming days/weeks...

    I hope you're right, but I wouldn't put any money on that.

    I've already seen updated z4 segments coming into my system! ;-)

    In the latest, his region looks like this:

    Region,93,Colombia,Colombia,David_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com
    ; Host,930,Colombia,Colombia,David_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com
    ,1,Colombia,Colombia,Davia_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,300,CM,XA,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com

    So, the flags look ok to me. Of course I don't know if his system actually supports the kind of filerequests the XA flag specifies.
    But at least the silly V34 flag for a internet-only system is gone.


    Bye, Wilfred.

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  • From Dan Clough@VERT to David Gonzalez on Sat Nov 30 12:57:16 2024
    David Gonzalez wrote to Accession <=-

    oh i tried to connect to his bbs. it's not connectable. i am not
    even sure if that's the correct domain.

    No idea on the rest of his situation. He seems to be trying to install
    10 things at once and has none of them configured properly. Then gets
    mad and defensive when people get frustrated trying to help him and
    he doesn't listen, completely ignores, or doesn't follow instructions
    very well at all.

    Really?, that's what you think?

    I suspect that *IS* what he thinks, since he said it was.

    It's also what I think, and I believe others think that too.

    Why, you wonder? For exactly the reasons he stated above. You've been offered all kinds of help, and get mad at those who tried. One thing
    that doesn't change though, is that you continue to have all kinds of
    problems with very basic things, and don't seem to want to listen or
    <GASP> read some documenation. You seem to not make any progress on
    anything, and just keep adding more mis-configurations.

    Eventually, people will just stop trying to help. *shrug*

    Yep. That's already happening.



    ... Apathy Error: Strike any key...or none, for that matter.
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  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to MRO on Sat Nov 30 11:39:01 2024
    Hello MRO!

    28 Nov 24 16:57, you wrote to Accession:

    You should've asked me LoL

    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Accession to All on Thu Nov 28 2024 07:26 am

    It's not a silly question, but the answer is no. While the SEEN-BYs
    keep getting added to the message as it gets passed around, his
    original message doesn't have a tearline or origin line, which is
    why the SEEN-BYs are not hidden on software that specifically only
    hides them if there is a tearline and origin line.


    oh THAT's why. i've always made sure i have my origin line on.
    maybe i'll remote desktop this guy this weekend if i feel like it.

    oh i tried to connect to his bbs. it's not connectable.
    i am not even sure if that's the correct domain.

    ---
    � Synchronet � ::: BBSES.info - free BBS services :::
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
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  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to Accession on Sat Nov 30 11:39:59 2024
    Hello Accession!

    28 Nov 24 17:55, you wrote to Digital Man:

    right, we hewar you!

    Hello Digital,

    On Thu, Nov 28 2024 13:16:46 -0600, you wrote ..

    I'm not in any hurry to address this in SBBSecho. The problem is
    with the originator's configuration: they need an origin line in
    their echomail messages. It's a critical source of metadata (the
    originator's address) in all echomail messages.

    Understood and you know this, I know this, and others know this.
    However, the half a dozen or more times the solution has been given to
    the originator it has gone completely ignored. There's only so much
    we can do. You can lead a horse to water etc etc. *shrug*

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
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    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
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  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to Accession on Sat Nov 30 11:40:33 2024
    Hello Accession!

    28 Nov 24 18:31, you wrote to All:

    Hello Mro,

    On Thu, Nov 28 2024 16:57:23 -0600, you wrote ..

    oh THAT's why. i've always made sure i have my origin line on.
    maybe i'll remote desktop this guy this weekend if i feel like it.

    Might be better off that way, to be honest.

    oh i tried to connect to his bbs. it's not connectable. i am not
    even sure if that's the correct domain.

    No idea on the rest of his situation. He seems to be trying to install
    10 things at once and has none of them configured properly. Then gets
    mad and defensive when people get frustrated trying to help him and
    he doesn't listen, completely ignores, or doesn't follow instructions
    very well at all.

    Really?, that's what you think?

    Eventually, people will just stop trying to help. *shrug*

    Regards,
    Nick

    ... He who laughs last, thinks slowest.
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    ■ Synchronet ■ _thePharcyde telnet://bbs.pharcyde.org (Wisconsin)
    * Origin: Vertrauen - [vert/cvs/bbs].synchro.net (1:103/705)

    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
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  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to MRO on Sat Nov 30 11:41:18 2024
    Hello MRO!

    28 Nov 24 20:02, you wrote to Accession:

    You can't fix moron either.

    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Accession to Digital Man on Thu Nov 28 2024 05:55 pm

    Hello Digital,

    On Thu, Nov 28 2024 13:16:46 -0600, you wrote ..

    I'm not in any hurry to address this in SBBSecho. The problem is
    with the originator's configuration: they need an origin line in
    their echomail messages. It's a critical source of metadata (the
    originator's address) in all echomail messages.

    Understood and you know this, I know this, and others know this.
    However, the half a dozen or more times the solution has been given
    to the originator it has gone completely ignored. There's only so
    much we can do. You can lead a horse to water etc etc. *shrug*


    Well you can't fix stupid. You can't do a work around each time
    someone does something stupid. Remember a while back a person wanted
    DM to lock out new users from posting by default in the bbs software because there were a few spammers?

    The best thing to do is warn the person, tell them to use a testing
    area only, and if they won't abide, block them.
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    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
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  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to MRO on Sat Nov 30 11:43:09 2024
    Hello MRO!

    28 Nov 24 20:10, you wrote to Accession:

    Re: Re: Newbie question
    By: Accession to All on Thu Nov 28 2024 06:31 pm


    No idea on the rest of his situation. He seems to be trying to
    install 10 things at once and has none of them configured properly.
    Then gets mad and defensive when people get frustrated trying to
    help him and he doesn't listen, completely ignores, or doesn't
    follow instructions very well at all.

    Eventually, people will just stop trying to help. *shrug*

    the reason why i think the domain he is using isnt his is because it's bbs.skynet.com. that domain is setup to direct to telesat.com. also
    that domain goes back to 92. and there's no bbs.skynet.com subdomain. skynet.com COULD be his, but that would surprise me.

    My opinion is this guy seems rushed and indecisive from what i've seen
    on line. he should delete everything and then set it up again and only
    use test areas.


    Maybe I was here when you were drinking formula, but things change bro, and maybe just maybe there are people not that savvy as you are, but I won't start a war, so I'll just ignore this.


    Maybe he shouldn't even BE a sysop, maybe just be a user.
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    David
    SEEN-BY: 4/0 88/0 90/0 103/705 124/5016 153/757 154/10 30 203/0 221/0
    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
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  • From David Gonzalez@VERT to Wilfred van Velzen on Sat Nov 30 11:44:42 2024
    Hello Wilfred!

    29 Nov 24 11:17, you wrote to MRO:

    It's worse having people an cmments like these dude, do you even think before you bash somebody.

    All of thsi effort saying all these would'ver been better trying to help and not sayiong all of the shit you said.

    Hi MRO,

    On 2024-11-28 20:10:06, you wrote to Accession:

    Maybe he shouldn't even BE a sysop, maybe just be a user.

    It's worse:

    Region,930,Colombia,Colombia,David_Gonzalez,-Unpublished-,33600,ICM,XA ,V34,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com ,1,Colombia,Colombia,Davia_Gonzalez,-Unpubl ished-,300,CM,XA,IBN:bbs.skynetbbs.com


    Bye, Wilfred.

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    David
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    SEEN-BY: 229/426 240/1120 5832 280/464 5003 5006 292/8125 301/1 310/31
    SEEN-BY: 341/66 234 396/45 423/120 460/58 467/888 633/280 712/848 770/1 SEEN-BY: 900/0 102 106 902/0 19 26 930/1 10 5020/400
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to David Gonzalez on Sat Nov 30 16:45:21 2024
    Re: Newbie question
    By: David Gonzalez to MRO on Sat Nov 30 2024 11:39 am

    Hello MRO!

    28 Nov 24 16:57, you wrote to Accession:

    You should've asked me LoL


    alright i'll ask. can't you set your shit up correctly?
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