It's quieter then a church mouse on Christmas Eve in here.
Re: It's really quiet in here
By: Gregory Deyss to All on Tue Oct 29 2019 09:16 pm
It's quieter then a church mouse on Christmas Eve in here.
I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?
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Re: It's really quiet in here
By: Gregory Deyss to All on Tue Oct 29 2019 09:16 pm
It's quieter then a church mouse on Christmas Eve in here.
I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?
On 10-31-19 22:23, Gregory Deyss <=-
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I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?
It depends on who you ask.
The democrats are fixated on impeaching the President of the United States. they had whistle-blower but not a real one because it was 4
hand information,
they have vanished because released the transcript of
the conversation between and the Ukraine leader.
The democrats won the
battle with their vote on that will formalize the vote on impeachment hearings, however they be far from successful in winning the War that
the White House will unleash upon them.
The saga continues...
On 10-31-19 22:23, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Richard Falken about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
I am not American so I have lost sight of the subject, but how is the whole impeachment thing going?
It depends on who you ask.
The democrats are fixated on impeaching the President of the United States. they had whistle-blower but not a real one because it was 4 hand information,
But every thing in the whistle blower's statement has been borne out by other witnesses who were on the call and witnesses who have observed the background information of Trump demanding withholding National Security Funds from an ally until they helped him provide dirt on his political potential opponent.
even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign government for help in his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.
On 11-01-19 07:20, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
But every thing in the whistle blower's statement has been borne out by other witnesses who were on the call and witnesses who have observed the background information of Trump demanding withholding National Security Funds from an ally until they helped him provide dirt on his political potential opponent.
It's ironic that you say this..
https://www.realclearinvestigations.com/articles/2019/10/30/ histleblower_expos ed_close_to_biden_brennan_dnc_oppo_researcher_120996.html
I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- but
even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign government for help in his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.
What Joe Biden did was a real quid pro quo.
On 11-01-19 07:20, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
But every thing in the whistle blower's statement has been borne out other witnesses who were on the call and witnesses who have observed background information of Trump demanding withholding National Securi Funds from an ally until they helped him provide dirt on his politica potential opponent.
It is even more ironic that you point to a link which describes
Republican Congressmen openingly advocating breaking the law by
publically publishing the identity of the whistleblower. Not a good way
to make your case.
I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- buteven if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign government for help i his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.
Ukrainian Government to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor. He was *not* forcing them to help him in his political campaign like Trump did.What Joe Biden did was a real quid pro quo.Joe Biden has been cleared of any wrong doing. He was forcing the
On 11-03-19 09:46, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
But every thing in the whistle blower's statement
has been borne out
other witnesses who were on the call and
witnesses who have observed
background information of Trump demanding
withholding National Securi
Funds from an ally until they helped him provide
dirt on his politica
potential opponent.
This is ridiculous, this is NOT what happened.
Whether it be immigration laws or finance laws or criminal statutes,
the president is duty-bound to enforce all laws. Failure to do so would
be a dereliction of his duty, as our first president believed.
This is nothing more them a attempt by the left to muddy the waters
and claim that Trump's actions are or were sinister, when they are
clearly not.
It is even more ironic that you point to a link which describes
Republican Congressmen openingly advocating breaking the law by
publically publishing the identity of the whistleblower. Not a good way to make your case.
I.e., there was definitely a quid pro quo -- but
even if not a quid pro quo, the asking a foreign
government for help in
his political campaign is a federal crime in itself.
What Joe Biden did was a real quid pro quo.
Joe Biden has been cleared of any wrong doing. He was forcing the Ukrainian Government to get rid of a corrupt prosecutor. He was *not* forcing them to help him in his political campaign like Trump did.
You need to understand what a quid pro quo is and is not.
It's latin for; something for something.
President Trump did not withhold - arms, protection or money for
exchange of information or dirt on the Biden's.
He simply made the request to check into what happened.
this onto Trump, when in
fact he has nothing to do with what happened.
On 11-03-19 09:46, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
But every thing in the whistle blower's statement
has been borne out
other witnesses who were on the call and
witnesses who have observed
background information of Trump demanding
withholding National Securi
Funds from an ally until they helped him provide
dirt on his politica
potential opponent.
This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for
years to come.
This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for years to come.
But pretty severely damaged already, aren't they? As soon as I commend a good democrat for doing something fair or legit, there are like 10 other democrats sucking up to minorities to improve their election odds. The racism, for one thing, makes me sick. They damage themselves every day. Every time they sniff one another.
On 11-04-19 07:10, Gregory Deyss <=-
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On 11-03-19 09:46, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
But every thing in the whistle blower's statement
has been borne out
other witnesses who were on the call and
witnesses who have observed
background information of Trump demanding
withholding National Security
Funds from an ally until they helped him provide
dirt on his political potential opponent.
What of the story that tells us that, this so called whistle-blower is actually forth hand information, and that this individual is extremely bias as they are anti-Trump, as they have connection to a DNC operative who was spying on the Trump campaign. This is information that simply
can not be ignored among people who want to get to the real truth.
The Dems couldn't get Trump with the Mueller report, so this
impeachment circus is just another attempt.
As for Trump and the Whitehouse not working with the Dems - this time.
He fully worked with them before with the Mueller investigation and
look what that collaboration got him. Nothing.
This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for
years to come.
promise so much when have power. Have they ever delivered on anything
that they have promised?
What of the story that tells us that, this so called whistle-blower i actually forth hand information, and that this individual is extremel bias as they are anti-Trump, as they have connection to a DNC operati who was spying on the Trump campaign. This is information that simpl can not be ignored among people who want to get to the real truth.
Is there a question or statement in that paragraph? It is such a run-on sentence that it makes no sense. Try again with coherent English.
It is true that the whistle-blower was not in the room on the call, but that he received information from more than one person who was in the
room or who had direct knowledge of it. We now know that a person who
was in the room has testified as to what transpired -- and was told to keep quiet about it by the same person who moved the so-called
transcript into a super secret vault to keep it from prying eyes.
Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or non-political people. Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made the Mueller report less effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.
1. Trump is not under any subpoena. but as long as we are talking about subpoena'sAs for Trump and the Whitehouse not working with the DemsHe fully worked with them before with the Mueller investigation and look what that collaboration got him. Nothing.
It is not collaboration to reply to a subpoena. It is the law.
This time they are on their own, I have no doubt that Trump will be exonerated, in this process the Democratic Party will be damaged for years to come.
It is probably that he will be impeached,
but not convicted by the Republican Senate.
On 11-05-19 22:15, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
What of the story that tells us that, this so
called whistle-blower i
actually forth hand information, and that this
individual is extremel
bias as they are anti-Trump, as they have
connection to a DNC operati
who was spying on the Trump campaign. This is
information that simpl
can not be ignored among people who want to get to the real truth.
Is there a question or statement in that paragraph? It is such a run-on sentence that it makes no sense. Try again with coherent English.
It is true that the whistle-blower was not in the room on the call, but that he received information from more than one person who was in the
room or who had direct knowledge of it. We now know that a person who
was in the room has testified as to what transpired -- and was told to keep quiet about it by the same person who moved the so-called
transcript into a super secret vault to keep it from prying eyes.
First of all your paragraph is more of a run on then mine.
My paragraph is 63 words with the use of periods & commas.
Yours is 80 words and no commas used.
No matter... I will answer you nonetheless, because you did.
It's not whistle-blower if he did not hear Trump speak those words,
what it is hear-say and nothing more, because of accuracy it is the
words of another equal to the fish story that grows in size each time
it is relayed.
I can see through this "vale of darkness" and what the dems are trying
to portray, and or what they are attempting to create; they are trying
to show that the President does not know the rules and he does not know what he is doing, because he not apart of the astonishment. Sly it is..
Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or non-political people. Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made the Mueller report less effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.
Wrong, because Bill Barr reached out to Mueller, the two have known
one another for years. Mr. Barr asked Mr. Mueller, did I get it wrong?
No was the response.
So what you have indicated about Mr. Barr lying is simply not true.
It is not collaboration to reply to a subpoena. It is the law.
1. Trump is not under any subpoena. but as long as we are talking
about subpoena's
You had at least three thoughts buried in one long sentence. The number of words in a paragraph is irrelevant to that. And your statement that
I had no commas is false. I guess that if you cannot dispute the facts, disparage the messenger -- that is something you must have learned from Trump.
what it is hear-say and nothing more, because of accuracy it is the words of another equal to the fish story that grows in size each time it is relayed.
You seem to forget that there were reports and testimony of someone who was in the room. There are also reports and testimony of multiple
people who had direct knowledge of the wrongful acts performed by Trump.
Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or non-political people Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made the Mueller report le effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.
1. Trump is not under any subpoena. but as long as we are talking about subpoena's
On 11-09-19 08:19, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
You had at least three thoughts buried in one long sentence. The number of words in a paragraph is irrelevant to that. And your statement that
I had no commas is false. I guess that if you cannot dispute the facts, disparage the messenger -- that is something you must have learned from Trump.
Now look who is being condescending... w/your "Did I learn that from Trump?"
You seem to forget that there were reports and testimony of someone who was in the room. There are also reports and testimony of multiple
people who had direct knowledge of the wrongful acts performed by Trump.
The transcript was released, the dems never expected this, and it has forced them to change their intended direction.
Actually the Mueller report was prepared under a Republican administration, staffed mostly by Republicans or
non-political people
Mueller was a life-long Republican. What made
the Mueller report le
effective was the fact that AG Barr lied about its comments.
The entire investigation was a lie. The Russian dossier is fiction.
Not a shred of truth to any of it. Great deal of money wasted for nothing.
Now the Witch Pelosi is now STEALING money (SSA) that is not hers to
fund this impeachment circus. She should not pass go and collect 200 thousand dollars. She should be hauled off to jail. She should also be strip searched for any get out of jail card.
1. Trump is not under any subpoena. but as long as we are talking about subpoena's
Ignoring the facts or deleting my comments about DEMS ignoring
subpoenas does not make them them go away.
Now look who is being condescending... w/your "Did I learn that from Trump?"
Gee, I thought you might take that as a compliment? You are channeling his methodology.
The transcript was released, the dems never expected this, and it has forced them to change their intended direction.
Your are partially correct. The Democrats never expected that Trump
would publish evidence of his crime -- but I don't think it changed
their direction, just strengthened their case.
You seem to be equating the Muller report with the Russian dossier. To start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation.
The Mueller team did a lot more investigation outside of what the dossier mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.
Now the Witch Pelosi is now STEALING money (SSA) that is not hers to fund this impeachment circus. She should not pass go and collect 200 thousand dollars. She should be hauled off to jail. She should also b strip searched for any get out of jail card.
Another ad hominem attack without any real substance
Ignoring the facts or deleting my comments about DEMS ignoring subpoenas does not make them them go away.
I do not recall your making any comments about the Democrats ignoring subpoenas. Say again please, with evidence.
On 11-10-19 10:27, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
You seem to be equating the Muller report with the Russian dossier. To start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation.
The Mueller team did a lot more investigation outside of what the dossier mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.
But no convictions or any indictments to President Trump.
Where there any other American's who were indicted or convicted?
Ignoring the facts or deleting my comments about DEMS ignoring
subpoenas does not make them them go away.
I do not recall your making any comments about the Democrats ignoring subpoenas. Say again please, with evidence.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hillary-clinton-deleted- 33000-emails-secretary-
state/story?id=42389308
That would been Hillary Clinton with the deletion of 33,000 emails
that were under subpoena.
On 11-10-19 10:27, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
You seem to be equating the Muller report with the Russian dossier. start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation. The Mueller team did a lot more investigation outside of what the dos mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.
Were they under subpoena? The article you referenced merely said that
the State department requested that she (and other Secretar
On 11-11-19 21:27, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: It's really quiet in <=-
You seem to be equating the Muller report with
the Russian dossier.
start with, much of that dossier has been born out by investigation.
The Mueller team did a lot more investigation
outside of what the dos
mentioned. Their investigation has resulted in many indictments and convictions, including people from the Trump campaign. Finally, the result of the Mueller investigation added more money to the Federal coffers than it cost -- i.e. not a waste at all, but a profit.
Who is the Whistle blower? Let's connect the dots....
"It's impossible to bring this case forward in my view fairly without
us knowing who the whistle blower is and having a chance to cross
examine them about any advice they may have, if they don't call the whistle blower in the house, this thing is dead on arrival on the
Senate." - Lindsey Graham
This skeem is rather elaborate, w/many different points all meant to
do one simple thing. - Get rid of President Trump. Undo the election results of 2016. All of this is based on that they can not accept that Donald Trump is the President.
Then there Due Process being treated like there is no such thing.
The scope and purpose for due process is to face your accuser, and to
call witness on your behalf.
This skeem is rather elaborate, w/many different points all meant to do one simple thing. - Get rid of President Trump. Undo the election results of 2016. All of this is based on that they can not accept th Donald Trump is the President.
WRONG. They cannot accept the abuse of the power of the Presidency by Donald Trump.
DS> Wait until the trial starts.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
What is really going on here is that the democrats are frustrated
because Trump is not using normal channels within his presidency,
because these are channels that leak and then are used to create a negative spin effect. Trump is making these people invalid and un-important, by keeping things close and classified.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Dale Shipp <=-
What is really going on here is that the democrats are frustrated because Trump is not using normal channels within his presidency, because these are channels that leak and then are used to create a negative spin effect. Trump is making these people invalid and un-important, by keeping things close and classified.
I would argue that these people were already invalid and unimportant.
But they got themselves inserted into the political machine so that they could have power.
Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
No argument from me Ron, by the way have you been watching these impeachment hearings? They are a complete waste of time, but highlights are fun to watch as they continue to come up empty.
At least the world now knows that the so called whistle-blower is
within the intelligence community, good thing it was not a luncheon / meeting or Adam Schiff would of choked on his happy meal, as he quickly stopped the questioning as the Republicans were nearly were on top of getting to the bottom of things.
That would of lit the entire crate of
fireworks off at once - it would of blew the top off the building as
well. but it also would of been another dismal failure just like the Mueller Investigation was.
It already is a dismal failure. Most people simply don't care and don't see anything that was wrong with what Trump did.
aaron thomas wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
Democrats don't handle it well when there's a fly in their soup. I'm afraid for Adam Schiff's eyeballs. Is he going to be ok?
It already is a dismal failure. Most people simply don't care and don't see anything that was wrong with what Trump did.
Democrats don't handle it well when there's a fly in their soup. I'm AT>afraid for Adam Schiff's eyeballs. Is he going to be ok?
Nobody has gone after them for taking huge sums of money in exchange for allowing a dangerous military adversary to gain control of a sizable amount of America's weapons-grade uranium.
Nobody has gone after them for taking huge sums of money in exchange allowing a dangerous military adversary to gain control of a sizable amount of America's weapons-grade uranium.
Trump's being treated like garbage for a technicality, while Obama and
the Clintons literally got away with murder and treason. Let's throw the book at Trump for fighting corruption and teach our kids to embrace dishonesty.
You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the left
is no where to be found?
Gregory Deyss wrote to aaron thomas <=-
You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the left
is no where to be found?
I welcome him back to the race - let's see him debate with Trump - It
will be hilarious!
Gregory Deyss wrote to aaron thomas <=-
You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the lef is no where to be found?
The Left has no interest in things like facts and evidence.
All they are about is "feelings". So if a Left feels that you are
guilty, them you must be guilty.
Nobody has gone after them for taking huge sums of money in exchange for allowing a dangerous military adversary to gain control of a sizable
amount of America's weapons-grade uranium.
Trump's being treated like garbage for a technicality, while Obama and the AT>Clintons literally got away with murder and treason. Let's throw the book AT>at Trump for fighting corruption and teach our kids to embrace dishonesty.
You ever notice when the facts and evidence are overwhelming, the left is GD>no where to be found?
Gregory Deyss wrote to Ron Lauzon <=-
I never reacted well to the desire of the left to feel as they do.
In fact I see a turning point taking shape as the dems are losing more
and more ground; politically speaking their losing their grasp,
especially with the lack of evidence within these hearings. OR It could
be that the adults in the room (Conservatives) having a better handle
w/ superior control to display and to indicate w/ precision what
exactly has been and happening.
With every attempt that is made to undermine the President, it falls to
a new and improved low and more of a disaster then ever before.
Dale should of forwarded my recommendations to his party, they would of potentially saved a little bit of respect and creditability.
2. They work out a deal with a corrupt company and Ukraine gov't to put someone on the company board (ex: Biden).
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