Hello Greg,

[..]

The Democratic Party is out of touch, and will lose again to Donald Trump.

People do not vote for a party, but for candidates of their choice.

One does not need to have insight like Nostradamus, to make such a
prediction.

I do not know any candidate by the name of The Democratic Party.

I seriously doubt the French seer Nostradamus ever did, either.
But he did write a few things (in cryptic verse) about Donald Trump.

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I do not know any candidate by the name of The Democratic Party.

Does it matter that I did not name them, my point was obviously they will ALL lose to or drop out of the race. One will remain and the last man or woman standing will lose to Donald Trump, I thought that was a obvious point.
However I am glad nonetheless, to clear up any confusion on your part.

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Hello Greg,

I do not know any candidate by the name of The Democratic Party.

Does it matter that I did not name them, my point was obviously they will
ALL lose to or drop out of the race.

Bush41 was flying high after he single-handedly pushed Iraq out
of Kuwait in the Gulf War, his chances for winning a second term
virtually assured, as his approval ratings were over 90 percent.

In October 1991 a Democratic candidate from Arkansas entered the
race for the Democratic nomination. Nobody gave him a snowball's
chance in hell. He went on to win his party's nomination, and
the White House, on a theme cooked up by a mad Cajun by the name
of James Carville. "It's the economy, stupid!" became the rallying
cry of Bill Clinton, who went on to serve two consecutive terms,
leaving office with the highest job approval ratings in history.

Bill Clinton was not the only candidate who had pulled off such
a stunt. Jimmy Carter had done it in 1976, beating all the bigwigs
in his own party to claim the nomination of his party, en route to
winning the presidency. "Only the best" was his mantra.

It is anybody's game at this point in time. A new candidate
just entered the race, with no poll numbers at all. Nobody is
assured of winning the nomination, much less the election.

One will remain and the last man or woman standing will lose to Donald
Trump, I thought that was a obvious point.

Bill Weld may win the Republican nomination, putting an end
to Donald Trump's reign of terror. Republicans will then rejoice,
if not only for a short time, as their chosen candidate prepares
to do battle with his Democratic opponent ...

If you do not believe that fantasy, here is another one -

Unlike the last election, the American people will decide who
they want, not the Russians. A legitimate president who would
serve them well.

However I am glad nonetheless, to clear up any confusion on your part.

Predictions are nothing more than guesses. Educated or not.
Prophecies, especially those made by Nostradamus, are a totally
different ballgame ...

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On 11 Jul 2019, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Hello Greg,

I do not know any candidate by the name of The Democratic Party.

Does it matter that I did not name them, my point was obviously they will
ALL lose to or drop out of the race.

Bush41 was flying high after he single-handedly pushed Iraq out
of Kuwait in the Gulf War, his chances for winning a second term
virtually assured, as his approval ratings were over 90 percent.

In October 1991 a Democratic candidate from Arkansas entered the
race for the Democratic nomination. Nobody gave him a snowball's
chance in hell. He went on to win his party's nomination, and
the White House, on a theme cooked up by a mad Cajun by the name
of James Carville.

I thought I remembered you suggested year ago that you were related to
James Carville. I could be mistaken.


"It's the economy, stupid!" became the rallying

cry of Bill Clinton, who went on to serve two consecutive terms,
leaving office with the highest job approval ratings in history.

Bill Clinton was not the only candidate who had pulled off such
a stunt. Jimmy Carter had done it in 1976, beating all the bigwigs
in his own party to claim the nomination of his party, en route to
winning the presidency. "Only the best" was his mantra.

It is anybody's game at this point in time. A new candidate
just entered the race, with no poll numbers at all. Nobody is
assured of winning the nomination, much less the election.

One will remain and the last man or woman standing will lose to Donald
Trump, I thought that was a obvious point.

Bill Weld may win the Republican nomination, putting an end
to Donald Trump's reign of terror.

Reign of Terror?
Excuse me, what reign of terror, only if your a Iranian.
Seriously though, do you even realize that today the stock market broke
another record today July 11, 2019


Republicans will then rejoice,

if not only for a short time, as their chosen candidate prepares
to do battle with his Democratic opponent ...

If you do not believe that fantasy, here is another one -

Unlike the last election, the American people will decide who
they want, not the Russians. A legitimate president who would
serve them well.

However I am glad nonetheless, to clear up any confusion on your part.

History will repeat itself, Trump will be out there in the polls appearing
like he is not really doing that great, (It really does give the Democratic party hope) - false hope but whatever. Then come September to October of
2020, you better sit down and hang on....
You are in for a real treat or a disaster, depending on which way you see things.

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People do not vote for a party, but for candidates of their choice.

I must admit that I do in fact vote for a party. I can't be the only one.

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Unlike the last election, the American people will decide who
they want, not the Russians. A legitimate president who would
serve them well.

You don't think that the primary winner will be the biggest gimmick available at the time? Whoever can use the most shock value to disgust conservatives; somebody who truly hates the health & safety of the American citizens; the
one who will incite race wars and create the most hostile social climate
among whites & non-whites; Kamala's got this.

The only thing she's missing, to be a success in the Democratic primary, is free health care for all who pass through the USA & Iran. <- That will seal
the deal for sure.

You know who's not going to be the primary winner? Tulsi Gabbard. The reason
is because she's a veteran; liberals hate that. How would they ever win the election if they back a person who served our country? People who are willing to serve our country are not going to be successful in the democratic
primary; valor doesn't win liberal votes, unfortunately; the opposite does.

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On 07-11-19 21:32, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: Nostradamus <=-

You know who's not going to be the primary winner? Tulsi Gabbard. The reason is because she's a veteran; liberals hate that. How would they

She is not the only veteran on the debate stage. But she is the only
one who spoke of nothing else.

ever win the election if they back a person who served our country?
People who are willing to serve our country are not going to be
successful in the democratic primary; valor doesn't win liberal votes, unfortunately; the opposite does.

Don't think that any of the Democrat hopefuls avoided service because of
a medical report of a bone spur. Did not seem to hurt the Republican
candidate last time.

Dale Shipp
fido_261_1466 (at) verizon (dot) net
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Hello Aaron,

People do not vote for a party, but for candidates of their choice.

I must admit that I do in fact vote for a party. I can't be the only one.

It used to be, not so long ago, that people in Louisiana and most
of the South, had no choice but to vote for candidates in the
Democratic Party, as there were usually no Republicans on the ballot
at all. I am glad that people today have more choices, and that
there are multiple parties having candidates to choose from.

I am not criticizing folks who choose to vote the party line.
Some people continue to do so, as is their right. But I do find
today's choices as being much more open and democratic.

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Hello Aaron,

Unlike the last election, the American people will decide who
they want, not the Russians. A legitimate president who would
serve them well.

You don't think that the primary winner will be the biggest gimmick
available
at the time? Whoever can use the most shock value to disgust conservatives; >somebody who truly hates the health & safety of the American citizens; the >one who will incite race wars and create the most hostile social climate >among whites & non-whites; Kamala's got this.

We survived having a black man as president. So why not a black woman?

The only thing she's missing, to be a success in the Democratic primary, is >free health care for all who pass through the USA & Iran. <- That will seal >the deal for sure.

Everything ought to be free. That is what I believe. And that is
what most people believe. Better for me to spend other people's money
rather than my own. Wouldn't you agree?

I have friends who are from Iran. They had to move here in order
to escape persecution due to their faith. Both have made it here in
the USA, and are thankful for what this country has done for them.
Every now and then, I have to remind them it is best to remain here
rather than to visit their former homeland. Iran does not treat
those who have left their shores in the same light as those who have
chosen to keep the faith in the wisdom of their mullahs.

That is something Americans fail to understand. And are fortunate
in that respect, given how other peoples are treated in other lands.

You know who's not going to be the primary winner? Tulsi Gabbard. The reason >is because she's a veteran; liberals hate that. How would they ever win the >election if they back a person who served our country? People who are
willing
to serve our country are not going to be successful in the democratic >primary; valor doesn't win liberal votes, unfortunately; the opposite does.

There are three veterans in the race for the Democratic nomination,
including one man who is openly gay. Which one the Democrats will
choose as their party's nominee is anybody's guess. But it would be
nice if the Republicans would consider a true veteran for their own
nominee.

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Hello Greg,

LL> >LL>I do not know any candidate by the name of The Democratic Party.
LL>
LL> >Does it matter that I did not name them, my point was obviously they will
LL> > ALL lose to or drop out of the race.
LL>
LL> Bush41 was flying high after he single-handedly pushed Iraq out
LL> of Kuwait in the Gulf War, his chances for winning a second term
LL> virtually assured, as his approval ratings were over 90 percent.
LL>
LL> In October 1991 a Democratic candidate from Arkansas entered the
LL> race for the Democratic nomination. Nobody gave him a snowball's
LL> chance in hell. He went on to win his party's nomination, and
LL> the White House, on a theme cooked up by a mad Cajun by the name
LL> of James Carville.

I thought I remembered you suggested year ago that you were related to
James Carville. I could be mistaken.

Distantly related. Cousin, many parts removed.

LL> "It's the economy, stupid!" became the rallying
LL> cry of Bill Clinton, who went on to serve two consecutive terms,
LL> leaving office with the highest job approval ratings in history.
LL>
LL> Bill Clinton was not the only candidate who had pulled off such
LL> a stunt. Jimmy Carter had done it in 1976, beating all the bigwigs
LL> in his own party to claim the nomination of his party, en route to
LL> winning the presidency. "Only the best" was his mantra.
LL>
LL> It is anybody's game at this point in time. A new candidate
LL> just entered the race, with no poll numbers at all. Nobody is
LL> assured of winning the nomination, much less the election.
LL>
LL> >One will remain and the last man or woman standing will lose to
Donald
LL> > Trump, I thought that was a obvious point.
LL>
LL> Bill Weld may win the Republican nomination, putting an end
LL> to Donald Trump's reign of terror.

Reign of Terror?

Some might call it that.

Excuse me, what reign of terror, only if your a Iranian.

And many others. Especially those south of the border.

Seriously though, do you even realize that today the stock market broke
another record today July 11, 2019

While that may be good news for the investors, it means nothing
to folks who have invested little or nothing in the stock market.
And why should they? They have mouths to feed, and have to earn
a living in order to to that. Investors have money to burn, and
even if they lost it all would have lots of money left over to
do with what they want.

What this country needs is a president who can provide the leadership
necessary to implement an economic policy that works for all Americans,
not just for a small handful of investors who put their faith in the
stock market.

Republicans will then rejoice,
LL> if not only for a short time, as their chosen candidate prepares
LL> to do battle with his Democratic opponent ...
LL>
LL> If you do not believe that fantasy, here is another one -
LL>
LL> Unlike the last election, the American people will decide who
LL> they want, not the Russians. A legitimate president who would
LL> serve them well.
LL>
LL> >However I am glad nonetheless, to clear up any confusion on your
part.
LL>

History will repeat itself, Trump will be out there in the polls appearing >like he is not really doing that great, (It really does give the Democratic >party hope) - false hope but whatever. Then come September to October of >2020, you better sit down and hang on....
You are in for a real treat or a disaster, depending on which way you see >things.

I am sure Trump will fight like hell to win a second term. But
it will be all for naught, as his Democratic opponent will be reminding
voters that real change is needed. That he/she can do a better job
than what they have now. IOW, make it a referendum on Trump, showing
the American voting public that a better world awaits them.

Oh what a sight it will be when the first openly gay president
takes the stage with his husband on January 20, 2021 ...

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Hello Greg,

I do not know any candidate by the name of The Democratic Party.

Does it matter that I did not name them, my point was obviously they will
ALL lose to or drop out of the race.

Latest Trump casualty is Alex Acosta. Resigned in disgrace due
to his inability to properly prosecute a convicted sexual predator.

One will remain and the last man or woman standing will lose to Donald
Trump, I thought that was a obvious point.

According to most polls, of those currently running for the Democratic nomination, almost all of them are ahead of Trump. Although it is
possible the Democrats might nominate another McGovern or Mondale, it
is far from likely.

However I am glad nonetheless, to clear up any confusion on your part.

Republicans have a choice. Suicide with Trump. Or siding with
former governor Bill Weld, giving them at least a slim chance of
winning against whoever the Democrats put up.

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Hello Greg,

I do not know any candidate by the name of The Democratic Party.

Does it matter that I did not name them, my point was obviously they will
ALL lose to or drop out of the race.

Latest Trump casualty is Alex Acosta. Resigned in disgrace due
to his inability to properly prosecute a convicted sexual predator.

One will remain and the last man or woman standing will lose to Donald
Trump, I thought that was a obvious point.

According to most polls, of those currently running for the Democratic nomination, almost all of them are ahead of Trump. Although it is
possible the Democrats might nominate another McGovern or Mondale, it
is far from likely.

However I am glad nonetheless, to clear up any confusion on your part.

Republicans have a choice. Suicide with Trump. Or siding with
former governor Bill Weld, giving them at least a slim chance of
winning against whoever the Democrats put up.

--Lee

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at all. I am glad that people today have more choices, and that
there are multiple parties having candidates to choose from.

I agree, it's better to have choices. Sometimes, in my voting district, we
have local elections with candidates running unopposed; it's disheartening
when the unopposed candidate is from my least favorite party.

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We survived having a black man as president. So why not a black woman?

Obama was pretty terrible, but I don't think he incited race wars; that's why not this particular black woman. Some other black woman would be fine. Since the democrats are experts at exploiting people of color, a black woman has pretty good odds for them.

The republicans don't exploit people of color though; they don't exploit
people of valor either. Whoever is best for us (best for our country in this case) is the one they will pick. (Not whoever looks the best on the cover of
a book.)

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Oh what a sight it will be when the first openly gay president
takes the stage with his husband on January 20, 2021 ...

To hell with that idea, wake up from your dream, because that will not happen on January 20, 2021 and not does not have much potential of happening within the next fifty years.

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On 07-14-19 14:03, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: War or Planefuls of <=-

It is not worth the effort to attempt to reason with you anymore. It is
clear that you have not read the elements of obstruction of justice
that Mueller stated against Trump.

It is clear that you do not understand how Barr is doing exactly what
Trump is directing him to do, i.e. working as Trump's lawyer and not the people's lawyer. There are carefully laid out rules about how the
Whitehouse is not supposed to communicate with the Justice department
except through particular channels -- and those channels do not include
Trump telling Barr what to do, but that is what is happening.

The opinions you are spouting are so close to those issued by the far
right news outlets, that I wonder if you are capable of forming an
opinion of your own without hearing it from them first.

Why don't you tune in to Mueller's testimony in front of the House
committee to hear what the report really says from the source,
unfiltered by anyone.

Dale Shipp
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On 15 Jul 2019, Dale Shipp said the following...

On 07-14-19 14:03, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: War or Planefuls of <=-

It is not worth the effort to attempt to reason with you anymore. It is clear that you have not read the elements of obstruction of justice
that Mueller stated against Trump.

I guess we will have to return to the old ways, of agreeing to disagree.
With me being on the right, I can a achieve this quite effectively.

It is clear that you do not understand how Barr is doing exactly what Trump is directing him to do, i.e. working as Trump's lawyer and not the people's lawyer. There are carefully laid out rules about how the Whitehouse is not supposed to communicate with the Justice department except through particular channels -- and those channels do not include Trump telling Barr what to do, but that is what is happening.

Don't you listen to your boss or used to listen to your boss if you are now retired. Anyway what I referring to is known as chain of command and it
happens everyday in every line of work. This is something that is not indigenous to The White House. It's called getting things done.

The Democrats are not use to a Republican President who will not quiver and crumble under their say so, Trump fights back at typically twice the
velocity of what was received. That is something that his father Fred Trump taught Donald at a very young age. It is also something that has been passed down from generation to generation within the Trump family.

The opinions you are spouting are so close to those issued by the far
right news outlets,

It's funny that you mention this, I was just explaining to my wife the other day of what happens when I see news headlines on the internet. I always be sure to look for the outlet of where the story originated; If the the story is from New York Times or the Washington Post, there are many that are biased. It has been seen time and time again that they don't give the truth at least not immediately it is buried within several paragraphs. Left leaning newspapers have printed more stories that force them to also print a statement of retraction. They also use from anonymous sources more times than I care to remember, which are nothing more then baseless statements that is not worth the paper that it's printed on.

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On 2019 Jul 15 07:10:32, you wrote to Dale Shipp:

It is not worth the effort to attempt to reason with you anymore. It
is clear that you have not read the elements of obstruction of
justice that Mueller stated against Trump.

I guess we will have to return to the old ways, of agreeing to
disagree. With me being on the right, I can a achieve this quite effectively.

with you being in the wrong, it is also achieved quite easily... that you cannot accept that is very telling...

It is clear that you do not understand how Barr is doing exactly what
Trump is directing him to do, i.e. working as Trump's lawyer and not
the people's lawyer. There are carefully laid out rules about how
the Whitehouse is not supposed to communicate with the Justice
department except through particular channels -- and those channels
do not include Trump telling Barr what to do, but that is what is
happening.

Don't you listen to your boss or used to listen to your boss if you
are now retired. Anyway what I referring to is known as chain of
command and it happens everyday in every line of work. This is
something that is not indigenous to The White House. It's called
getting things done.

trump is -=*/NOT/*=- barr's boss... the DOJ is a separate and distinct branch... you should be old enough to know how the US government is set up and operates...

The Democrats are not use to a Republican President who will not

trump is not a republican president... he is only wearing that classification like wearing dirty underwear...

The opinions you are spouting are so close to those issued by the far
right news outlets,

It's funny that you mention this, I was just explaining to my wife the other day of what happens when I see news headlines on the internet. I always be sure to look for the outlet of where the story originated;
If the the story is from New York Times or the Washington Post, there
are many that are biased.

without a doubt, every single one of them is biased... even your right-wing ones...

It has been seen time and time again that they don't give the truth at least not immediately it is buried within several paragraphs.

the right-wing ones do the same thing...

Left leaning newspapers have printed more stories that force them to
also print a statement of retraction. They also use from anonymous
sources more times than I care to remember, which are nothing more
then baseless statements that is not worth the paper that it's printed
on.

open your eyes, man... the right-wingers are equally biased and bad...

)\/(ark

And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was
so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
it off.
... It is twice as hard to crush a half-truth as it is a whole lie.
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at all. I am glad that people today have more choices, and that
there are multiple parties having candidates to choose from.

I agree, it's better to have choices. Sometimes, in my voting

district, we

have local elections with candidates running unopposed; it's

disheartening

when the unopposed candidate is from my least favorite party.

Run for office yourself
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On 15 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

with you being in the wrong, it is also achieved quite easily... that you cannot accept that is very telling...

I don't back down ever and specially for snowflakes who have nothing but
hatred for our President.
If Dale does not want to continue the conversation for whatever reason, I am more then ok with that.

But for the record, I am not wrong.

You libs are all the same you want to argue and debate and make
accusations. You are incapable of agreeing to disagree.

trump is not a republican president... he is only wearing that classification like wearing dirty underwear...

With his money? I don't think he has worn the same pair of sox twice the same with his underwear, but seriously your digging to the bottom of the insult bucket if you're discussing dirty underwear.

You got the Trump Derangement Syndrome real bad.

You see I do not need to go off and act all bat-shit crazy to get my point across. I am on the right, life is as good as cherry pie.

the right-wing ones do the same thing...

We don't need to make fake ass and bias stories We Won! & We will Win again! but don't worry I am sure there is a Wal*Mart near by where you can pick some kleenex, crayons & coloring books too, for when the time comes.

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On 2019 Jul 15 21:50:26, you wrote to me:

with you being in the wrong, it is also achieved quite easily... that
you cannot accept that is very telling...

I don't back down ever and specially for snowflakes who have nothing
but hatred for our President.

says he with his head firmly buried in the sand...

If Dale does not want to continue the conversation for whatever
reason, I am more then ok with that.

:shrug:

But for the record, I am not wrong.

hahaha...

You libs are all the same you want to argue and debate and make accusations. You are incapable of agreeing to disagree.

i do that all the time... i haven't in this case, though...

trump is not a republican president... he is only wearing that
classification like wearing dirty underwear...

With his money?

WHOOSH!

what money he may have doesn't have anything to do with it...

You got the Trump Derangement Syndrome real bad.

riiiiiiight...

You see I do not need to go off and act all bat-shit crazy to get my
point across.

i don't see anyone in here doing that...

I am on the right, life is as good as cherry pie.

with your head firmly buried in the sand...

the right-wing ones do the same thing...

We don't need to make fake ass and bias stories We Won! & We will Win again!

HAHAHAHAH! there you go again with that ignorant winning bullshit... wadda maroon!

)\/(ark

And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was
so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
it off.
... Gratuitous acts of senseless violence are MY forte.
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On 16 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

says he with his head firmly buried in the sand...

Believe me, my head is anything but buried in the sand, it can't be because it is aware of the nastiness from the left -the contempt and the vile hatred for this President.

What is wrong with you people?
You don't like better - superior - trade deals with other countries that no longer result with the U.S. getting screwed w/ unfair unequal deals.
Who cares if these items, are a few dollars for a label that says Made in
the U.S.A. if all you want is cheap goods that are manufactured with questionable and harmful chemicals and ingredients then you are a sellout as well as a fool. Of which leads into a perfect segue which also makes a lot of sense. Perhaps this is why you are upset because the United States has a leader that will not allow the U.S. to have negotiators in trade deals who don't have a clue what they are doing.

If you want the U.S. to fail, you clearly do not belong here.

We rise together, like or not and I know many of you don't.
lowest unemployment rates - some are 50 year lows. So why be upset with this? unless once again you have a problem with this as well because once again we have leader that understands far better then a community organizer who couldn't organize a backyard barbecue to say nothing about charting a course to bring the country back with the unemployment numbers of today.
(before someone says that Obama started this you can also explain why Obama himself said these jobs are gone and are not coming back.)

Stock Market is doing great breaking new records never ever seen in the
United States. (yes, it does matter, because this means jobs.)

If you love America you should be very happy that Trump won, the positives
that are happening now wouldn't even be in the pre-planning stages if Hillary had won, the country would be in the same dismal death spiral as it was at
the end of Obama's Presidency.

All you want to talk about in non-existant Collusion and Obstruction, it is
not good enough that the Mueller Report has concluded there is no collusion
or obstruction by Donald Trump, the fact that you people on the left were hoping it would of been the final nail in his coffin, explains much about your character. You just won't let it die, you want to talk about how the charges will return when Donald Trump is no longer the President, how retarded is that when there was no indictment in the first place and I do not give a rat's ass what one thousand law professionals are saying because they are just as irrelevant as many as you are on the left, not to mention cut from the same cast.

When Obama was in office I was not rooting for his demise or hoping that he would fail, in-fact I voted for him the first time he ran, it had nothing to
do with the color of his skin, or being that he was the first African-American President. I voted for him for because I thought he would be bring forth what he said which was hope and change, and I liked what the man had to say. However I was disappointed and not impressed with what we got out of his Presidency after 8 long years.

I am far from the one w/ blinders on.

Just as I am not the one who needs to wake up.

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On 2019 Jul 16 13:07:32, you wrote to me:

says he with his head firmly buried in the sand...

Believe me, my head is anything but buried in the sand,

willful ignorance: A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt.

invincible ignorance: the fallacy of insisting on the legitimacy of one's position in the face of contradictory facts.

in other words, burying your head in the sand...

)\/(ark

And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was
so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
it off.
... It is by coffee alone I set my mind in motion.
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On 16 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

On 2019 Jul 16 13:07:32, you wrote to me:

says he with his head firmly buried in the sand...

Believe me, my head is anything but buried in the sand,

willful ignorance: A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt.

invincible ignorance: the fallacy of insisting on the legitimacy of one's position in the face of contradictory facts.

Your inability to refute what I have indicated show that your side has no
facts contradictory or otherwise.

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On 2019 Jul 16 15:47:48, you wrote to me:

Your inability to refute what I have indicated show that your side has no facts contradictory or otherwise.

no, it shows that you are simply not worth the effort any more ;)

willful ignorance: A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed
about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions
that such information might prompt.

invincible ignorance: the fallacy of insisting on the legitimacy of
one's position in the face of contradictory facts.


)\/(ark

And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was
so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
it off.
... God's retirement plan is out of this world.
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Hello mark,

says he with his head firmly buried in the sand...

Believe me, my head is anything but buried in the sand,

willful ignorance: A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed about
something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt.

invincible ignorance: the fallacy of insisting on the legitimacy of one's
position in the face of contradictory facts.

in other words, burying your head in the sand...

Willful ignorance - something that can be denied.

Invincible ignorance - something that cannot be denied.

One can be very informed and be willfully ignorant.
Which is why most members of Congress have not chosen
to read the public version of the Mueller report, and
still deny the president has committed a crime or has
obstructed justice.

But invincible ignorance is a far different matter.
For example, the headline in a North Carolina newspaper
asked - "Are you okay with a racist president, Republicans?"

Only 4 Republicans in the House have condemned the president's
words as being racist. Only 1 Republican in the Senate has
condemmed the president's words as being racist. And 1 former
Republican in the House.

We all know the Democrats are not okay with a racist president.
The House of Representives easily passed a resolution condemning
his actions as being racist, in effect calling him a racist.

That would be 235 Democrats, plus 4 Republicans, and 1 former
Republican who agree the president is a racist.

Talk about invincible ignorance.

--Lee

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Hello Greg,

ml> ml>> says he with his head firmly buried in the sand...
ml>
ml> GD> Believe me, my head is anything but buried in the sand,
ml>
ml> willful ignorance: A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed
ml> about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that
ml> such information might prompt.
ml>
ml> invincible ignorance: the fallacy of insisting on the legitimacy of one's
ml> position in the face of contradictory facts.

Your inability to refute what I have indicated show that your side has no >facts contradictory or otherwise.

Willful ignorance - something that can be denied.

Invincible ignorance - something that cannot be denied.

Well, now that we all know which one is which ...

--Lee

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Hello Greg,

Oh what a sight it will be when the first openly gay president
takes the stage with his husband on January 20, 2021 ...

To hell with that idea,

We have already had at least two presidents (Buchanan and Lincoln)
who were gay. So why not another?

wake up from your dream,

"Will I dream?" ~HAL9000 (gay computer in 2001: A Space Odyssey)

because that will not happen on January 20, 2021

Mayor Pete begs to disagree ...

and not does not have much potential of happening within
the next fifty years.

More likely within the next two years.

--Lee

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On 2019 Jul 17 22:00:50, you wrote to me:

Willful ignorance - something that can be denied.

Invincible ignorance - something that cannot be denied.

incorrect... they have specific meanings... look them up and learn something ;)

)\/(ark

And to this end they built themselves a stupendous super-computer which was
so amazingly intelligent that even before its data banks had been connected
up it had started from "I think therefore I am" and got as far as deducing
the existence of rice pudding and income tax before anyone managed to turn
it off.
... For some reason the little weinerheads make us laugh.
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On 17 Jul 2019, Lee Lofaso said the following...

Hello Greg,

ml> ml>> says he with his head firmly buried in the sand...
ml>
ml> GD> Believe me, my head is anything but buried in the sand,
ml>
ml> willful ignorance: A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming infor
ml> about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decision that
ml> such information might prompt.
ml>
ml> invincible ignorance: the fallacy of insisting on the legitimacy o one's
ml> position in the face of contradictory facts.

Your inability to refute what I have indicated show that your side has no >facts contradictory or otherwise.

Willful ignorance - something that can be denied.

Invincible ignorance - something that cannot be denied.

Well, now that we all know which one is which ...

Don't about value- getting his money's worth out of the pocket dictionary
that he picked up at the local Wal*Mart.

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Only 4 Republicans in the House have condemned the president's
words as being racist. Only 1 Republican in the Senate has

Republicans typically have bigger worries than racism analysis. Democrats don't. Nothing more important going on in their lives, or in their
constituents lives.

Is it racist for a conservative nationalist to say that each of those four women should go back to the country they're loyal to? Even if they've never been to their country of loyalty - they still "need to go back there." Sorry, this is the way some people talk. Never come to liberal New York if you don't like it.

Meanwhile, back on earth:

What about Alexandria's border jumpers? They're tired of being forced to drink urine from human skulls in the detention centers, and we need to close the loophole that's forcing them into that predicament. But wait - before we give
a crap about that - The President Might Be Racist! Let's act fast on a vote
on whether or not the president is racist! Nothing better to do!

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On 07-18-19 00:40, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: What is wrong with yo <=-

Is it racist for a conservative nationalist to say that each of those
four women should go back to the country they're loyal to? Even if

How can they "go back to the country they're loyal to"? They are in it,
and they have have sworn an oath to support and defend against all
enemies, foreign and domestic. The USA is the country they are loyal
to.

Dale Shipp
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Hello mark,

Willful ignorance - something that can be denied.

Invincible ignorance - something that cannot be denied.

incorrect... they have specific meanings... look them up and learn something
;)

We are largely ignorant. Ignorant and unknowing.
There are times when we do not know we are ignorant.
There are times when we recognize our ignorance.
But most of the time, we are both ignorant and unknowing.

This is only important if the expected consequences
of our actions are significant. Otherwise, we can be
ignorant and unknowing all we want, without any real
consequence at all.

Of course, if those expected consequences are unexpected ...

--Lee

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Hello Greg,

LL> > ml> ml>> says he with his head firmly buried in the sand...
LL> > ml>
LL> > ml> GD> Believe me, my head is anything but buried in the sand,
LL> > ml>
LL> > ml> willful ignorance: A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming infor
LL> > ml> about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decision
LL> > that
LL> > ml> such information might prompt.
LL> > ml>
LL> > ml> invincible ignorance: the fallacy of insisting on the legitimacy o
LL> > one's
LL> > ml> position in the face of contradictory facts.
LL> >
LL> >Your inability to refute what I have indicated show that your side
has no
LL> >facts contradictory or otherwise.
LL>
LL> Willful ignorance - something that can be denied.
LL>
LL> Invincible ignorance - something that cannot be denied.
LL>
LL> Well, now that we all know which one is which ...

Don't about value- getting his money's worth out of the pocket dictionary
that he picked up at the local Wal*Mart.

It is true that we are all largely ignorant. Ignorant and unknowing.

There are times when we do not know we are ignorant. And there are
times when we recognize our ignorance. Usually, it makes no difference
whether we know we are ignorant, or if we recognize our ignorace.
Unless the expected consequences are significant. In which case, we
can do whatever we want without consequence.

OTOH, if those expected consequences are unexpected ...

--Lee

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Hello Aaron,

Only 4 Republicans in the House have condemned the president's
words as being racist. Only 1 Republican in the Senate has

Republicans typically have bigger worries than racism analysis. Democrats
don't. Nothing more important going on in their lives, or in their constituents lives.

Racism has no place in this country. The failure of Republicans
to call out the president on his words of hate have been noted.
The failure of their racist president to call out those who yelled
hateful chants towards one of those women has also been noted.

Those four women the president targeted are one of us. Not a bunch
of undesirables who should be sent away to some other place far away.
The president owes an apology not only to those four women, but also
to each and every one of us.

His failure to do so has been duly noted.

Is it racist for a conservative nationalist to say that each of those four
women should go back to the country they're loyal to?

Yes. It is also racist for anybody else to say the same thing.

Even if they've never been to their country of loyalty - they still "need to
go back there."

We are all in this together. One nation, united and indivisible.
Those who seek to break us apart by words of hatred and division are
hardly what I would call patriotic.

Sorry, this is the way some people talk.

George C. Wallace was very good at that kind of talk. Without
ever resorting to saying the "N" word in public.

Never come to liberal New York if you don't like it.

Come to Louisiana. Leave different.

Meanwhile, back on earth:

What about Alexandria's border jumpers? They're tired of being forced to
drink urine from human skulls in the detention centers,

President Trump admitted he made that up. Called it fake news.

and we need to close the loophole that's forcing them into that predicament.

The officers who told that tale have been detained, and will be
reassigned to other matters.

But wait - before we give a crap about that - The President Might Be Racist!

No, no, no, no, no! You've got it all wrong!
The President *Is* A Racist! The House of Representatives
passed a resolution condemning him as a racist president!
It is all a matter of the official record! And cannot be
deleted!

Let's act fast on a vote on whether or not the president is racist!

How many times will the House of Representatives have to do this?
Seems to me the president is a repeat offender and rarely learns from
his mistakes.

Nothing better to do!

First there was "Lock her up!"
That was when Trump was still a candidate running for office.

Hillary Clinton has yet to be charged with any crime.

Must be because Trump never had a case to begin with.
And still doesn't.

Now there is "Send her back!"
That is when Trump is in office playing to a crowd.

All four Americans have spent their time, and our tax dollars,
well as they continue to represent their constituents in our nation's
capital.

And they are just getting started ...

--Lee

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There are times when we do not know we are ignorant. And there are
times when we recognize our ignorance. Usually, it makes no difference whether we know we are ignorant, or if we recognize our ignorace.
Unless the expected consequences are significant. In which case, we
can do whatever we want without consequence.

OTOH, if those expected consequences are unexpected ...

Right as was indicated by Hillary Clinton when she said that she did not
intend to willingly break the law.

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On 2019 Jul 21 08:20:56, you wrote to me:

Maybe *she* should "go home" to Puerto Rico,

One of the most ignorant and hateful statements that a person can make to another is "If you don't like it here, why don't you leave?"
That attitude is the main reason America was founded, in all its hope and energy and goodness. The people who came here, to make a better land than had ever been seen before by the common people, had been rebuffed and rejected by their neighbors in the Old World.
They didn't like conditions where they lived, and wanted to improve them. If they had been allowed and encouraged to, the Old World would have had a happier history, instead of the miserable tribulations that turned the eyes of the people to America as their last, best hope.
NOW WE FIND that many Americans--smug and fat and entrenched in their affluent inertia--are saying the same ugly thing to their neighbors: "If you don't like it here, why don't you leave?"
But most people who want to change conditions /do/ like it here: they love it here. They love it so much they cannot stand to see it suffer from its imperfections, and want it to live up to its ideals. It is the people who placidly accept the corruptions and perversions and inequities in our society who do not love America; they love their status, security and special privilege.
Nobody should be faced with the mean choice of accepting conditions as they are or abandoning the place he has grown up in. We not only have a right, we have a responsibility, to make our environment as just and as flourishing as our Founding Fathers declared it must be if it were to live up to its aspiration as "the standard of the world."
THOSE WHO WANT to leave have a right to, but those who want to stay and work for what they consider a better society must be protected in that right--for without it, our nation would sink into stagnation, and the process of change would harden into repression by those who benefit by keeping things just as they are.
If all the settlers who came here, with high hopes for a new and finer social order, had been compelled to "go back where they came from," we would have had no United States of America. This country was born out of dissatisfaction with the old scheme of things, and grew on the blood and dedication of men who were not afraid to speak and work for fundamental changes in the whole political and social structure.
Somebody who truly didn't like what America /stands/ for ought to be invited to leave; but there is a vast difference between such a person and those who dislike /what we have allowed ourselves to become/, through greed and prejudice and provincial indifference to the great problems we now face. No community can afford to lose these good "agitators."

Sydney J Harris - July 21 1969 - Chicago Daily News

)\/(ark

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On 22 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

Nobody should be faced with the mean choice of accepting conditions as they are or abandoning the place he has grown up in. We not only have a right, we have a responsibility, to make our environment as just and as flourishing as our Founding Fathers declared it must be if it were to
live up to its aspiration as "the standard of the world."

Um, You are aware that the left has been attacking Thomas Jefferson, for
being a slave owner, and are finding fault with his writings that he wrote along with Benjamin Franklin, John Adams, Roger Sherman, Robert R. Livingston called the Declaration of Independence.

THOSE WHO WANT to leave have a right to, but those who want to stay
and work for what they consider a better society must be protected in
that right--for without it, our nation would sink into stagnation, and
the process of change would harden into repression by those who benefit
by keeping things just as they are.

Wonderful speech Mark, and I agree with you. But let me ask you a question. What if it was possible to bring AOC back in time to those days that your writing about. I know very well what would be the outcome.
AOC would be tarred and feathered and carried through cobblestone streets, and charged with high treason.

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On 2019 Jul 22 07:26:54, you wrote to me:

Wonderful speech Mark,

i didn't write it, i only transcribed it...

and I agree with you.

i don't believe you...

)\/(ark

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On 22 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

On 2019 Jul 22 07:26:54, you wrote to me:

Wonderful speech Mark,

i didn't write it, i only transcribed it...

and I agree with you.

i don't believe you...

Then I agree with what you transcribed.
I did not see any issue with it and I read it several times.

Although I do find it interesting that you did not answer me.

What if it was possible to bring AOC back in time to those days that your writing about. I know very well what would be the outcome. AOC would be tarred and feathered and carried through cobblestone streets, and charged with high treason.

Could it be that you did not respond because there could be truth in what I indicated? Why do you think that is? The Conservatives of today may roll their eyes and can't believe what they are hearing from the new left spokeswomen and her squad. Where it may make us cringe as we wait for the next outlandish statement yet to be spoken, we know very well it will be against America.
-just as all the other deranged statements have been.

The Founding Fathers would never ever tolerate such talk. Most would declare to burn her at the stake with a overwhelming majority as they would find her guilty of possessing the tongue of the devil.

Thank goodness we have mellowed out and changed our ways and look at
things different in modern times. It's no guarantee that we on the right will remain as we are today, this depends on her and how she decides to use her tongue, it might be necessary to return to the old ways in the very near future.

She is playing a very dangerous game, I am really tired (I do know that I am not the only one, not a long shot.) of hearing that she is saying these statements because she loves America, her words are counter intuitive to that belief. I find her to be arrogant, ignorant and hateful.

What is yet to come - what path will be chosen?

Next comes desperation (here and now) The never ending need to call the President a racist, when he never mentioned nationality nor did he make any reference to race. (The Democratic plays the race card when it suits them.)
The Presidents twitter remarks do not have anything to do with race, as it relates to the squad. Everybody knows that, but they are selling the idea as this hatches the narrative to populate peoples minds with. Hoping that the nation is stupid enough and that they will soon subscribe to it.

She is dividing the county into two parts, the ones who find her statements repulsive and the ones who find no issue with statements.

Next comes division but on a national scale far worse then anyone as ever seen.

Next comes separation... Everyone knows where this leads us.

Do you want another Civil War? I don't.

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On 07-22-19 02:19, Mark Lewis <=-
spoke to Gregory Deyss about The 'love it or leave it' <=-

One of the most ignorant and hateful statements that a
person can make to another is "If you don't like it here,
why don't you leave?"

<<SNIP>>

Sydney J Harris - July 21 1969 - Chicago Daily News

Well said, a good article, glad that you found it and posted it. It was written at a different time, and under different circumstances -- but is
true and relevant today.

Dale Shipp
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On 2019 Jul 22 19:47:14, you wrote to me:

Wonderful speech Mark,

i didn't write it, i only transcribed it...

and I agree with you.

i don't believe you...

Then I agree with what you transcribed.

that's very interesting... it seems to be the opposite of what you have been voicing in this very echo...

I did not see any issue with it and I read it several times.

i'm glad...

Although I do find it interesting that you did not answer me.

i don't care to engage further with those posts.

)\/(ark

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On 23 Jul 2019, mark lewis said the following...

Although I do find it interesting that you did not answer me.

i don't care to engage further with those posts.

I didn't think you would.

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On 07-23-19 06:11, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: War or Planefuls of <=-

back." Standing up for thugs like Trayvon Martin - Barack even said
"If I had a Son he would like Trayvon.

On what basis do you have for calling Trayvon a thug? His only crime
was walking while black, and he was murdered for that by some wanta be
cop doing vigilante justice.

Let's not forget the thug Michael Brown.

Much the same, except this time it was a real cop that murdered him,
firing multiple times while his hands were raised in the air.


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On 24 Jul 2019, Dale Shipp said the following...

On 07-23-19 06:11, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: War or Planefuls of <=-

back." Standing up for thugs like Trayvon Martin - Barack even said "If I had a Son he would like Trayvon.

On what basis do you have for calling Trayvon a thug? His only crime
was walking while black, and he was murdered for that by some wanta be
cop doing vigilante justice.

Let's not forget the thug Michael Brown.

Much the same, except this time it was a real cop that murdered him, firing multiple times while his hands were raised in the air.

Do you live in a alternate reality where facts don't matter.
First of many facts that prove the case against Micheal Brown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBWuULMdNw

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On what basis do you have for calling Trayvon a thug? His only crime
was walking while black, and he was murdered for that by some wanta be
cop doing vigilante justice.

Be careful my liberal buddy; Trayvon was killed by a latino - it's not pc to say anything bad about a latino unless it's US Senator Ted Cruz.

I think the CNN headline was supposed to read "Poor folk looking for a better life accidentally caused the death of one of those other people who we use as political tools."

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On 2019 Jul 21 08:20:56, you wrote to me:

Maybe *she* should "go home" to Puerto Rico,

One of the most ignorant and hateful statements that a person can

make to

another is "If you don't like it here, why don't you leave?"

Why? They don't say "if you don't like it, TS."

That attitude is the main reason America was founded, in all its

hope and

energy and goodness. The people who came here, to make a better land

than had

ever been seen before by the common people, had been rebuffed and

rejected by

their neighbors in the Old World.

I know why the country was founded - and that the native Americans were
unable to control immigration into THEIR country, and look what
happened to them.

This country can easily handle legal immigrants, and they should be
welcomed. Unfortunately, people are ILLEGALLY pouring across this
country's southern border at the rate of several thousand per DAY and
have been for several years; the country CANNOT absorb that many
immigrants that fast.
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On 07-24-19 07:08, Gregory Deyss <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Walking while black <=-

Let's not forget the thug Michael Brown.

Much the same, except this time it was a real cop that murdered him, firing multiple times while his hands were raised in the air.

Do you live in a alternate reality where facts don't matter.
First of many facts that prove the case against Micheal Brown

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEBWuULMdNw

That video has nothing to do with the shooting. It is all about some
person complaining in detail about a documentary that used edited video.
The fact is that Michael Brown and Travon Martin were both shot and
killed for walking while black, with little or no documented
justification for that shooting.

Instead of trying to pull out some irrelevant Youtube video, why don't
you at least bother to do a Google on the name and read any of the
several articles that report on the shooting of Brown and/or Martin?


Dale Shipp
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On 07-24-19 14:39, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Dale Shipp about Re: Walking while black <=-

On what basis do you have for calling Trayvon a thug? His only crime
was walking while black, and he was murdered for that by some wanta be
cop doing vigilante justice.

Be careful my liberal buddy; Trayvon was killed by a latino - it's not
pc to say anything bad about a latino unless it's US Senator Ted Cruz.

The point is that the color of skin should not matter as much as it
does. Trayvon was stopped and accosted simply because he did not look
like he "belonged" in that neighborhood. What then resulted was a
tragic death -- not an accident, but deliberate action.

Dale Shipp
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I know why the country was founded - and that the native Americans were unable to control immigration into THEIR country, and look what

I believe the majority of USA native American voters will back Trump in
2020. I don't know natives from all around, but natives from the pueblos of
New Mexico are often complaining about illegal immigrants. They might
consider me to be one, but we're still fighting the same battle. Extremely patriotic people; many of whom are veterans.

I doubt that USA native Americans appreciate white and/or black politicians
(or any politicians) advertising open borders. "We're outsiders who invaded your land, and we're fighting tooth & nail to allow others to invade your land too."

There are disputed lands across the USA, but do any Democrats even have the nerve to try to exploit native Americans for votes? Maybe Elizabeth Warren should try promising some land back? :)

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There are disputed lands across the USA, but do any Democrats even have the nerve to try to exploit native Americans for votes? Maybe Elizabeth Warren should try promising some land back? :)

Elizabeth "Pocahontas" Warren is toast.
Once the story about Dow chemical is digested, she claims to have fought for the women w/suits against Dow Chemical, She was working both sides of the street as she was also working for and protecting Dow Chemical.

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On 2019 Jul 25 01:29:00, you wrote to Gregory Deyss:

Instead of trying to pull out some irrelevant Youtube video, why don't
you at least bother to do a Google on the name and read any of the
several articles that report on the shooting of Brown and/or Martin?

bah... instead of confusing him with the truth, tell him more lies... the truth is what his ignorant mind says it is and he can't understand anything more than that... he is fully engulfed by the "Wizard's First Rule" and it shows greatly...

Wizard's First Rule: People are Stupid.
========================================================================
People are stupid; given proper motivation, almost anyone will believe
almost anything. Because people are stupid, they will believe a lie
because they want to believe it's true, or because they are afraid it
might be true. People's heads are full of knowledge, facts, and beliefs,
and most of it is false, yet they think it all true. People are stupid;
they can only rarely tell the difference between a lie and the truth,
and yet they are confident they can, and so are all the easier to fool.

)\/(ark

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I know why the country was founded - and that the native

Americans were

unable to control immigration into THEIR country, and look what

I believe the majority of USA native American voters will back Trump

in

2020. I don't know natives from all around, but natives from the

pueblos of

New Mexico are often complaining about illegal immigrants. They might consider me to be one, but we're still fighting the same battle.

Extremely

patriotic people; many of whom are veterans.

Many people don't know that during WW II, the US used Navajo tribesmen
in its radio communications in the Pacific Theater. The Japanese
didn't have ANYBODY that could speak or understand native American
languages. Drove the Japanese nuts..
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didn't have ANYBODY that could speak or understand native American languages. Drove the Japanese nuts..

They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are still alive, but I bet they don't vote against America.

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Hello Aaron,

didn't have ANYBODY that could speak or understand native American >BA>languages. Drove the Japanese nuts..

They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are still alive, but I bet
they don't vote against America.

They have their own nation(s).

--Lee

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They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are still alive, but I
they don't vote against America.

They have their own nation(s).

Yes, but their nation isn't akin to statehood; they're not independent of the USA.

Elizabeth Warren is the only native American who I've heard of who is
fighting for open borders. I wonder if she will get endorsement from her
tribe? My sources say no!

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They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are still

alive, but I

they don't vote against America.

They have their own nation(s).

Yes, but their nation isn't akin to statehood; they're not

independent of the

USA.

They are, however, pretty much independent of the state governments in
the states where their reservations are located.

Elizabeth Warren is the only native American who I've heard of who is fighting for open borders. I wonder if she will get endorsement from

her

tribe? My sources say no!

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On 08-01-19 10:12, Aaron Thomas <=-
spoke to Lee Lofaso about Re: The 'love it or leave <=-

They called them "code talkers." Not many of them are
still alive, but I
they don't vote against America.

They have their own nation(s).

Yes, but their nation isn't akin to statehood; they're not independent
of the USA.

Actually, their nations are not part of the USA, even though included
within its boundaries -- it's complicated.

Elizabeth Warren is the only native American who I've heard of who is fighting for open borders. I wonder if she will get endorsement from
her tribe? My sources say no!

A. Elizabeth Warren has not said that she is native American, she has
said that she has a native American heritage. She does not have a
tribe. What she has said is true of many people. Somewhere in their
past five or six generations there was a native American ancestor. Some
deny that, and some embrace it.

Dale Shipp
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A. Elizabeth Warren has not said that she is native American, she has
said that she has a native American heritage. She does not have a

You're right. She didn't say she's "Native American," but what she did say is that she's "American Indian" on her State Bar of Texas registration. But
what's the difference?

Manipulating an entire race of people (or trying to) is a difficult challenge for the average person, but Elizabeth Warren is a Democrat, so it's second nature for her. Although, she hasn't mastered the art like her pal Kamala.

Her partial DNA match might have got her more popularity points if she represented something other than Massachusetts; she's not exactly living the pueblo life.

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On 08-02-19, DALE SHIPP said to AARON THOMAS:

A. Elizabeth Warren has not said that she is native American, she has DS>said that she has a native American heritage.

Elizabeth Warren wrote she was `American Indian' on a 1986 registration card she made out for the state bar of Texas in 1986.


When this was brought to light, neither Warren nor her office disputed the authenticity of the form or the reporting.


So... I guess Shipp is right; she didn't say she was `native American'....she said she was `American Indian'!





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