Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to George Santayana on Wed Aug 31 2022 12:47 am

Hey George!

I couldn't have said it better. On that note, here is a playful MSG sent fr the newest x86_64-lilmikii-linux-gnu host toy, known to fidonet as "Little Mikey's Brain". It is small, uses little power, but plays with the BIG boys I like it.

Life is good,
Maurice

... Ne sceal man to ær forht ne to ær fægen.
One should not be too soon fearful nor too soon joyful.

Hey Maurice! I'm struggling with a failing cable modem here. Not fun.

xxcarol
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Hey Carol!

Hey Maurice! I'm struggling with a failing cable modem here.
Not fun.

Seriously? ... or are you just having 'fun' with me?

Much weirdness happening on cable these days although I can't say I've encountered a failing cable modem ... yet.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

02 Sep 2022 17:24, Maurice Kinal wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

Hey Maurice! I'm struggling with a failing cable modem here.
Not fun.

Seriously? ... or are you just having 'fun' with me?

2400 baud modems or just 300 ? :=)

Much weirdness happening on cable these days although I can't say I've encountered a failing cable modem ... yet.

bigger problems is when eu tld nameservers have one ipv6 that does not respond to udp querys make the whole service degraded mode, but the sky is not failing here yet, google ipv6 is brokken, fuu no one realy cares


Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

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Hey Benny!

2400 baud modems or just 300 ? :=)

I upgraded into the so-called high speed connection which is two 9600 baud modems in parallel. :-)

udp querys make the whole service degraded mode

I am still in the ipv4 universe which has always been into degradation over time. Streaming services are putting a strain on the infrascructure I think ... but gotta have it ... 4k too!!! :::evil grin:::

google ipv6 is brokken, fuu no one realy cares

Did they ever care?

Life is good,
Maurice

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A friend is useful, far or near; the nearer the better.
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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Sep 02 2022 05:24 pm

Hey Carol!

Hey Maurice! I'm struggling with a failing cable modem here.
Not fun.

Seriously? ... or are you just having 'fun' with me?

Much weirdness happening on cable these days although I can't say I've encountered a failing cable modem ... yet.

Life is good,
Maurice

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One of the ports went bad. I got a new one. It was 7 years old. Anyways, no more rental bill for the old one!

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Benny Pedersen to Maurice Kinal on Fri Sep 23 2022 11:33 pm

Hello Maurice!

02 Sep 2022 17:24, Maurice Kinal wrote to Carol Shenkenberger:

Hey Maurice! I'm struggling with a failing cable modem here.
Not fun.

Seriously? ... or are you just having 'fun' with me?

2400 baud modems or just 300 ? :=)

Much weirdness happening on cable these days although I can't say I've encountered a failing cable modem ... yet.

bigger problems is when eu tld nameservers have one ipv6 that does not respo to udp querys make the whole service degraded mode, but the sky is not faili here yet, google ipv6 is brokken, fuu no one realy cares

Regards Benny

... too late to die young :)

I haven't tried IPV6 yet. It's barely aavailable here but it looks like Verizon Fios may make it an option for home users.

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Hey Carol!

One of the ports went bad.

That's the story of my life. :-/

I got a new one. It was 7 years old. Anyways, no more rental
bill for the old one!

I hear you. In my case I am still renting but the latest one is only a few years old and thus far hasn't given me any grief other than when there is an outage usually due to wind damage to the infrastructure. Speaking of which, any damage your way due to the latest storm? It looks like Florida will be down for awhile.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hey Charles!

I know that feeling

It is a well travelled road. Word on the street claims a wrong turn at Albuquerque is the likely cause.

there are some areas which are just completely "hiroshima'd"

The barrier islands looked like that from the footage I've seen thus far. Whole neighbourhoods gone with only the footings to stand as evidence that there used to be a house there.

We got lucky over here on the east coast in daytona though.

Which explains the no news from that direction. We never get to hear about the one(s) that got away without a scratch.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 05 2022 02:29:50

Hey Charles!

I know that feeling

It is a well travelled road. Word on the street claims a wrong turn at Albuquerque is the likely cause.

Yea, have a good friend called bugs who always says he should have turned left there.

there are some areas which are just completely "hiroshima'd"

The barrier islands looked like that from the footage I've seen thus far. Whole neighbourhoods gone with only the footings
to stand as evidence that there used to be a house there.

yea, a friend of mine who is in ft myers has a 2 story house... well... 1.5 now... half the bottom floor is mud.

We got lucky over here on the east coast in daytona though.

Which explains the no news from that direction. We never get to hear about the one(s) that got away without a scratch.

yea not really bad up here, crapload of trees down a few houses have new branches etc. us personally, we had 3ft of water in the street - luckily didnt make it up to the house, others were not so lucky. for us, the stormwater drain empties into the pond which empties into the creek/lake, which was emptying itself into the street so the water had nowehere to go for a couple of days LOL

went down through sanford yesterday on the way to a job, there is a watershed down on the 415 just before you get to it (just after you leave osteen) and normally that's just the river, yesterday it was the lake again. funny thign was, the wter had risen 3 ft there since sunday.

I don't know if you can share pictures through here, but if you email me i can send you a couple.

Life is good,

that it is. if it wasnt, we'd be dead :D

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Hey Charles!

Yea, have a good friend called bugs who always says he should
have turned left there.

Some people never learn. I am guessing that is why Elmer says, "Kill da wabbit!" ... which won them an Academy Award if I am not mistaken - "What's Opera Doc?". As a bonus Metallica has a version of the song.

yea, a friend of mine who is in ft myers has a 2 story house...
well... 1.5 now... half the bottom floor is mud.

I saw quite a few of those. Also tons of standing water everywhere including main floors. Doesn't look good from this angle despite the fact we're at a level four drought (the highest level) in this neck of the woods. Last year around this time it was flooding.

I don't know if you can share pictures through here, but if you
email me i can send you a couple.

I don't have your address. Sharing pictures (jpegs and the such) via a fidonet echoarea has been talked about before and I think is doable. Netmail attachments would likely be the easiest way to accomplish this.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 05 2022 15:51:12

Hey Charles!

Yea, have a good friend called bugs who always says he should
have turned left there.

Some people never learn. I am guessing that is why Elmer says, "Kill da wabbit!" ... which won them an Academy Award if I am
not mistaken - "What's Opera Doc?". As a bonus Metallica has a version of the song.

oh i'm sooo going to have to look up that metallica bit now.

yea, a friend of mine who is in ft myers has a 2 story house...
well... 1.5 now... half the bottom floor is mud.

I saw quite a few of those. Also tons of standing water everywhere including main floors. Doesn't look good from this angle
despite the fact we're at a level four drought (the highest level) in this neck of the woods. Last year around this time it
was flooding.

yea arcadia is still pretty much underwater but i must admit, they're doing very well considering. el jefe in his blue n white jumbo is supposed to be there this afternoon so no doubt will be all over the news tonight.

I don't know if you can share pictures through here, but if you
email me i can send you a couple.

I don't have your address. Sharing pictures (jpegs and the such) via a fidonet echoarea has been talked about before and I
think is doable. Netmail attachments would likely be the easiest way to accomplish this.

yea, I suppose I could UUCP one in here (wouldn't be the first time LOL) but that may be frowned upon considering the amount of bandwidth it would take up.

anyway....
thefbobbs at gmail dot com

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 05 2022 15:51:12

Hey Charles!
Some people never learn. I am guessing that is why Elmer says, "Kill da wabbit!" ... which won them an Academy Award if I am
not mistaken - "What's Opera Doc?". As a bonus Metallica has a version of the song.

oh i'm sooo going to have to look up that metallica bit now.

I saw quite a few of those. Also tons of standing water everywhere including main floors. Doesn't look good from this angle
despite the fact we're at a level four drought (the highest level) in this neck of the woods. Last year around this time it
was flooding.

yea arcadia is still pretty much underwater but i must admit, they're doing very well considering. el jefe in his blue n white jumbo is supposed to be there this afternoon so no doubt will be all over the news tonight.

I don't have your address. Sharing pictures (jpegs and the such) via a fidonet echoarea has been talked about before and I
think is doable. Netmail attachments would likely be the easiest way to accomplish this.

yea, I suppose I could UUCP one in here (wouldn't be the first time LOL) but that may be frowned upon considering the amount of bandwidth it would take up.
anyway....
thefbobbs at gmail dot com
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It was called Kill Da Wabbit (Metallica Version) but actually Metallica didn't have anything to do with it.

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Hey Charles!

yea, I suppose I could UUCP one in here (wouldn't be the first
time LOL) but that may be frowned upon considering the amount of
bandwidth it would take up.

Would you prefer x-modem over a tcpip connection?

Life is good,
Maurice

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I don't have your address. Sharing pictures (jpegs and the such) via a

fidonet echoarea has been talked about before and I

think is doable. Netmail attachments would likely be the easiest way to

accomplish this.
yea, I suppose I could UUCP one in here (wouldn't be the first time LOL) but
that may be frowned upon considering the amount of bandwidth it would take up.
anyway....

I'd suggest uploading pics to places like susepaste.org (no annoying ads!) ..and simply sharing the resultant link in echomail.

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 05 2022 22:26:28

Hey Charles!

yea, I suppose I could UUCP one in here (wouldn't be the first
time LOL) but that may be frowned upon considering the amount of
bandwidth it would take up.

Would you prefer x-modem over a tcpip connection?

im actually quite partial to zmodem8k and used to do a lot with sealink.

I remember when i used to contract for NEC and had to dial into different *nix boxes to do updates and troubleshoot
the MIS system that was runinng on them for their PBX systems (mainly british gas)

my old man thought it was fascinating that I could dial into the local machine that was a local call for us, but then traverse
from there over the british gas network to the site in glasgow which is what I needed to look at.

then of course either uploading direct to that machine, or "UUCP'ing" from the home box to it "via" the local node.

saved my old man and me multiple 4+ hour (one way) drives just to put a disk in and copy a new binary LOL

then of course i found a sealink version for SCO Openserver and that helped tremendously. we went from 5bps to like 25bps or something stupid like that lol

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: August Abolins to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 05 2022 10:15:20

yea, I suppose I could UUCP one in here (wouldn't be the first time LOL) but
that may be frowned upon considering the amount of bandwidth it would take up.
anyway....

I'd suggest uploading pics to places like susepaste.org (no annoying ads!) ..and simply sharing the resultant link in
echomail.

yea but that's the easy way out lol

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Hey Charles!

im actually quite partial to zmodem8k and used to do a lot with
sealink.

For at least the last two decades - and then some - I have been using binkd for fidonet file transfers including official MSGs liked this one, although this particular point is using ssh to transfer to the mothership -> "Little Mikey's Brain", 1:153/7001.0. It's ip address is in the regular nodelist. It compares favourably to ftp transfers although I haven't tried lately as I currently don't have ftpd running on "Little Mikey's Brain". That would be the winner if something like graphics is ever needed in fidonet exchanges.

Running 'file -b binkd' from a remote to "Little Mikey's Brain" yields;

ELF 64-bit LSB executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 4.4.0, stripped

saved my old man and me multiple 4+ hour (one way) drives just to
put a disk in and copy a new binary LOL

At that time had access to multiple remote 9-track tape drives. They were roughly a half hour walk from where I lived at the time. Anyhow the mainframe didn't have any compatible programs to copy to what passed for a PC back then. However I could telnet from home but without actually bieng there to swap tapes and the such made living so close extremely attractive at the time. Exabytes on Sparc stations changed the game for me and my usage of Linux later on brought it all together.

binkd fits into the scheme.

sealink version for SCO Openserver and that helped tremendously

I never played with SCO. Solaris is where I cut my unix teeth ... in a time and a land far, far away.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Charles Blackburn!

** On Thursday 06.10.22 - 12:32, Charles Blackburn wrote to August Abolins:

I'd suggest uploading pics to places like susepaste.org
(no annoying ads!) ..and simply sharing the resultant
link in echomail.

yea but that's the easy way out lol

Ah.. OK. I forgot that it's not supposed to be easy, but leet
and geeky. LOL
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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Thu Oct 06 2022 19:09:18

Hey Charles!

im actually quite partial to zmodem8k and used to do a lot with
sealink.

For at least the last two decades - and then some - I have been using binkd for fidonet file transfers including official
MSGs liked this one, although this particular point is using ssh to transfer to the mothership -> "Little Mikey's Brain",
1:153/7001.0. It's ip address is in the regular nodelist. It compares favourably to ftp transfers although I haven't tried
lately as I currently don't have ftpd running on "Little Mikey's Brain". That would be the winner if something like graphics
is ever needed in fidonet exchanges.

oh for sure, scp/rsync et al are the way to go in modern times.... unless of course the pc you're working on is a p150 with 48 meg of ram and only has irda or a serial port :D

then i go back to good ol' laplink and a parallel cable or if it's from my main pc, a serial cable.

saved my old man and me multiple 4+ hour (one way) drives just to
put a disk in and copy a new binary LOL

At that time had access to multiple remote 9-track tape drives. They were roughly a half hour walk from where I lived at the
time. Anyhow the mainframe didn't have any compatible programs to copy to what passed for a PC back then. However I could
telnet from home but without actually bieng there to swap tapes and the such made living so close extremely attractive at
the time. Exabytes on Sparc stations changed the game for me and my usage of Linux later on brought it all together.

yea i cut my teeth on SCO Xenix running on a compaq deskpro 386 eith eisa cards and all the other good stuff.

the days of having to put a disk in and boot just to do a cmos bios change sucked... in fact, i just found an old disk case
of my dads which has a bunch of the config disks in for compaqs... need to get around to imaging them.

sealink version for SCO Openserver and that helped tremendously

I never played with SCO. Solaris is where I cut my unix teeth ... in a time and a land far, far away.

at the time i never got on with solaris, even though it was similar it was just that much different from *NIX to be a pita

I still have a xenix and an OS507 vm sitting here that i play with at times. :D

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Hey Charles!

then i go back to good ol' laplink and a parallel cable or if
it's from my main pc, a serial cable.

plip and slip. Just like mom used to make.

SCO Xenix running on a compaq deskpro 386

An alpha would have been more impressive methinks ... mind you compaq bought them out ... just before they got bought out by hp. So much for that idea.

at the time i never got on with solaris

You and many, many others. My excuse is there wasn't a choice as the sparc's came preloaded with solaris and it was never my dime. On the plus side I learned c while I was at it. Before that it was f77 on vax/vms. I haven't done fortran since moving to linux despite the fact the plan was to port some f77 source using g77 installed on a 486. Back then Slackware 3.something.or.other was the clear winner. 32-bit pci cards were just starting to make an appearance then.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: August Abolins to Charles Blackburn on Thu Oct 06 2022 19:22:00

I'd suggest uploading pics to places like susepaste.org
(no annoying ads!) ..and simply sharing the resultant
link in echomail.

yea but that's the easy way out lol

Ah.. OK. I forgot that it's not supposed to be easy, but leet
and geeky. LOL

of course and why not lol... that's the fun way... "it's 31337" :D

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Fri Oct 07 2022 01:38:52

Hey Charles!

then i go back to good ol' laplink and a parallel cable or if
it's from my main pc, a serial cable.

plip and slip. Just like mom used to make.

yup... nothing like slipping in... never mind :D

SCO Xenix running on a compaq deskpro 386

An alpha would have been more impressive methinks ... mind you compaq bought them out ... just before they got bought out by
hp. So much for that idea.

yea that would be nice, closest to an alpha i have is emulation. although that said, i have played with a microvax and stuff when i was working at the bowling alley... they had a micropdp I beleive it was or something like that which ran an AMF version of Xenix. was cool as i was the only one that knew how to use it i got to play, but it controlled everything from telling the pinsetters to turn on to cashing, scoring etc.

i'm going back some 30-odd years but hell would be cool to get one of them :D

at the time i never got on with solaris

You and many, many others. My excuse is there wasn't a choice as the sparc's came preloaded with solaris and it was never my
dime. On the plus side I learned c while I was at it. Before that it was f77 on vax/vms. I haven't done fortran since moving

i've dabbled with opensolaris or w/e it's called nowadays, but it's just bsd to me LOL

to linux despite the fact the plan was to port some f77 source using g77 installed on a 486. Back then Slackware
3.something.or.other was the clear winner. 32-bit pci cards were just starting to make an appearance then.

found my copy of slackware 2.3 CDROM circa 1995, and it still works :D

regards
charlie
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Hey Charles!

found my copy of slackware 2.3 CDROM circa 1995, and it still works :D

Of course it does, it's slackware.

The earliest version I can find is ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/slackware/slackware-iso/slackware-3.2-iso/slackware-3.2-install.iso but they have pkg's etc in a directory for 3.0, ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/slackware/slackware-3.0/. No 2.x anywhere that I am aware of although I am sure someone, somewhere might have 2.x versions available. I have a couple boxed sets from "Walnut Creek" but they are both 3.x versions. I could find out but I see the computer club has all the 3.x releases available.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Fri Oct 07 2022 21:56:27

Hey Charles!

found my copy of slackware 2.3 CDROM circa 1995, and it still works :D

Of course it does, it's slackware.

LOL

The earliest version I can find is ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/slackware/slackware-iso/slackware-3.2-iso/slackware-3.2-install.iso but they have pkg's etc
in a directory for 3.0, ftp://mirror.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/slackware/slackware-3.0/. No 2.x anywhere that I am aware of
although I am sure someone, somewhere might have 2.x versions available. I have a couple boxed sets from "Walnut Creek" but
they are both 3.x versions. I could find out but I see the computer club has all the 3.x releases available.

If you want me to dd it i'd be happy to do that. I have a bunch of other stuff too.

regards

Charles Blackburn
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Hey Charles!

If you want me to dd it i'd be happy to do that.

That would be fantastic. Let me know what I need to do to get it.

I have a bunch of other stuff too.

All the releases prior to 3.0 but if not then the only CD version of 2.x will definetly be of interest here.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 08 2022 20:19:51

Hey Charles!

If you want me to dd it i'd be happy to do that.

That would be fantastic. Let me know what I need to do to get it.

netmail me and i'll send you a link later on for a dropbox d/l. it'll probably be too big to send via zmodem on my bbs lol

I have a bunch of other stuff too.

All the releases prior to 3.0 but if not then the only CD version of 2.x will definetly be of interest here.

sure no problem.. klemme dig it out and see if i can dd it

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Hey Charles!

it'll probably be too big to send via zmodem on my bbs

# ls -alh Slackware2.3.iso
# -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 636M Oct 9 22:03 Slackware2.3.iso

Looks good from this angle. I haven't tried it yet but I have some old CD's I should use up.

Thank you. I owe you one.

Life is good,
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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Sun Oct 09 2022 22:27:47

Hey Charles!

it'll probably be too big to send via zmodem on my bbs

# ls -alh Slackware2.3.iso
# -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 636M Oct 9 22:03 Slackware2.3.iso
Looks good from this angle. I haven't tried it yet but I have some old CD's I should use up.

if i remember right it's not a bootable cdrom (but i could be wrong), but it does have all 15 installation disks there off hand lol

Thank you. I owe you one.

no worries

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Hey Charles!

if i remember right it's not a bootable cdrom (but i could be wrong),

$ file -b /mnt/archives/slackware/slackware64-15.0-install-dvd.iso
ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data (DOS/MBR boot sector) 'SlackDVD' (bootable)

As expected the slackware64-current-install-dvd.iso is bootable whereas;

$ file -b /mnt/archives/slackware/Slackware2.3.iso
ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'SLACK_0695_1'

No love there. :-/

Not exactly expected it to be bootable considering the very first bootable cdrom I ever had was on a p1 laptop which was later than slackware-2.3. I won it in a bet that I could get power management working and stable on it.

but it does have all 15 installation disks there off hand

I loop mounted it and it looks like it is all there. Thank you again.

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Hello Carol!

03 Oct 2022 15:32, Carol Shenkenberger wrote to Benny Pedersen:

I haven't tried IPV6 yet. It's barely aavailable here but it looks
like Verizon Fios may make it an option for home users.

just remember that ipv6 nameservers dont need to exists if all ipv4 works, and the otherway around ipv4 nameservers can all be disconnected if all ipv6 servers works, its basicly a backup line :=)

for the fun dnswiz have problems with eurid.eu ip udp route flaging all domains as problem since it sees that the be.dns.eu aaaa is non responding from dnswiz point of view :=)

junc.eu is still ok in dns


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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Mon Oct 10 2022 01:45:33

Hey Charles!

if i remember right it's not a bootable cdrom (but i could be wrong),

$ file -b /mnt/archives/slackware/slackware64-15.0-install-dvd.iso
ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data (DOS/MBR boot sector) 'SlackDVD' (bootable)
As expected the slackware64-current-install-dvd.iso is bootable whereas;

not to mention a DVD which wasnt around really in 95 :D

$ file -b /mnt/archives/slackware/Slackware2.3.iso
ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'SLACK_0695_1'
No love there. :-/

ya figured.

Not exactly expected it to be bootable considering the very first bootable cdrom I ever had was on a p1 laptop which was later than slackware-2.3. I won it in a bet that I could get
power management working and stable on it.

hahaha

but it does have all 15 installation disks there off hand

I loop mounted it and it looks like it is all there. Thank you again.

yea i figured it should be. DD never barfed on anything

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Hey Charles!

not to mention a DVD which wasnt around really in 95 :D

Thank goodness. I never really liked CDs and all DVDs added was greater capacity with no additional assurances that the spinney disk of plastic isn't entirely useless over a relatively short lifetime. Mind you the plastic will be long after this civilization has burned out. Back around 1999-ish I thought flash disks (compact flash) would be the ultimate install source. There were CFdisk -> ide adapters but not hotswapping other than the usb ones which at the time weren't bootable.

DD never barfed on anything

I've seen it bog down on some bad CD/DVDs to the point of having to kill the process. If you allow it to, dd will try for days to make a copy. Persistant little bugger.

file -b /usr/bin/dd
ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped

Worth vastly more than it's weight in bytes. The above is the coreutils version of dd. Isn't everybody's?

Life is good,
Maurice

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Carol Shenkenberger on Tue Oct 04 2022 03:52 pm

Hey Carol!

One of the ports went bad.

That's the story of my life. :-/

I got a new one. It was 7 years old. Anyways, no more rental
bill for the old one!

I hear you. In my case I am still renting but the latest one is only a few years old and thus far hasn't given me any grief other than when there is an outage usually due to wind damage to the infrastructure. Speaking of which, any damage your way due to the latest storm? It looks like Florida will be down for awhile.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Lost a shed and fence work due tomorrow.

Not too bad otherwise.

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Wed Oct 12 2022 00:16:43

Hey Charles!

not to mention a DVD which wasnt around really in 95 :D

Thank goodness. I never really liked CDs and all DVDs added was greater capacity with no additional assurances that the
spinney disk of plastic isn't entirely useless over a relatively short lifetime. Mind you the plastic will be long after
this civilization has burned out. Back around 1999-ish I thought flash disks (compact flash) would be the ultimate install
source. There were CFdisk -> ide adapters but not hotswapping other than the usb ones which at the time weren't bootable.

oh come on... we all know the ultimate was "disk-On-Chip" (i have a few lying around here somewhere :D)

DD never barfed on anything

I've seen it bog down on some bad CD/DVDs to the point of having to kill the process. If you allow it to, dd will try for
days to make a copy. Persistant little bugger.

yea you and me both LOL

file -b /usr/bin/dd
ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for
GNU/Linux 3.2.0, stripped

I can beat that :D

# file dd
dd: ELF 32-bit LSB Executable 80386, dynamically linked, stripped, no debug
# ls -ld dd
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 30 Sep 14 2015 dd -> /opt/K/SCO/Unix/5.0.7Hw/bin/dd
# uname -a
SCO_SV sco507vm 3.2 5.0.7 i386


<snarky> the real size is 16744 bytes :D 30 bytes for a dd yea right LOL that was the symlink size :D
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Hey Maurice!

"ttylinux of the 21st century" thingy

Actually it was called "flash-ttylinux of the 21st century" thingy.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hey Carol!

Lost a shed and fence work due tomorrow.
Not too bad otherwise.

We never got any news from your direction so I was figuring it couldn't have been too bad. Like they say, no news is good news.

Life is good,
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Hey Charles!

we all know the ultimate was "disk-On-Chip" (i have a few lying
around here somewhere :D)

I have one (M-Systems) with a missing pin that waas the root/boot for one of the few "ttylinux of the 21st century" thingy I was playing with 20 some odd years ago. Speaking of which, what about the disk-on-module? I had a couple server motherboards that had that interface but never bothered. If I am not mistaken it was one of Intel's ideas.

I can beat that :D
# file dd
dd: ELF 32-bit LSB Executable 80386, dynamically linked, stripped, no debug

I beg to differ;

# file -b dd
ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, for GNU/Linux 4.9.0, stripped
# uname -a
Linux motorshed 5.19.15 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Thu Oct 13 04:25:13 UTC 2022 x86_64 GNU/Linux
# ls -ld dd
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18680 Oct 15 03:17 dd

the real size is 16744 bytes

18680 bytes for a 64-bit version. It isn't from coreutils though. ;-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 15 2022 03:03:27

Hey Charles!

we all know the ultimate was "disk-On-Chip" (i have a few lying
around here somewhere :D)

I have one (M-Systems) with a missing pin that waas the root/boot for one of the few "ttylinux of the 21st century" thingy I
was playing with 20 some odd years ago. Speaking of which, what about the disk-on-module? I had a couple server motherboards
that had that interface but never bothered. If I am not mistaken it was one of Intel's ideas.

Disk on chip, disk on module is pretty much the exact same thing.. they're great for a little mebedded system, way back when a friend of mine built an R2D2 RC robot that ran dos and you could program it4

I beg to differ;

so do i.... mine was from a circa 1995 SCO Openserver 5.0.7 build :D not from this linux thingy.

the real size is 16744 bytes

18680 bytes for a 64-bit version. It isn't from coreutils though. ;-)

Yea that's not too bad either

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Hey Charles!

Disk on chip, disk on module is pretty much the exact same thing

Not quite. One looks like a bug with roughly 16 legs (pins) which is the disk-on-chip made by m-systems whereas the disk-on-module looks like a usb flash disk except isn't. Both are eol as far as I am aware.

circa 1995 SCO Openserver 5.0.7 build

That is what I thought ... other than the year except I couldn't really say much for SCO one way or the other. True64 would be something of interest to me. That should run in a qemu virtual alpha. I plan to look for an iso for it once I get everything settled down with my latest 'upgrade', mostly glibc-2.36 driven.

18680 bytes for a 64-bit version.

Yea that's not too bad either

Yep and right up to date to. The reason it is so small as it isn't as feature full as the coreutils version.

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Charles Blackburn on Sat Oct 15 2022 20:43:56

Disk on chip, disk on module is pretty much the exact same thing

Not quite. One looks like a bug with roughly 16 legs (pins) which is the disk-on-chip made by m-systems whereas the
disk-on-module looks like a usb flash disk except isn't. Both are eol as far as I am aware.

what I meant was they are both pretty much the same thing in that they're solid state "flash drives". in fact the ones i have somewhere, 1 is a 24 pin DIP, the other is a "Cartridge" with a regular IDE connector. i've had "D.o.M"s which have been pretty much glue logic for a disk on chip lol.

circa 1995 SCO Openserver 5.0.7 build

That is what I thought ... other than the year except I couldn't really say much for SCO one way or the other. True64 would
be something of interest to me. That should run in a qemu virtual alpha. I plan to look for an iso for it once I get
everything settled down with my latest 'upgrade', mostly glibc-2.36 driven.

i have legit keys and isos for OS5.0.7, Xenix which i have on a set of floppies as that's what I used to work with. tru64 should be pretty interesting to play with and yea i run them with qemu.

18680 bytes for a 64-bit version.

Yea that's not too bad either

Yep and right up to date to. The reason it is so small as it isn't as feature full as the coreutils version.

as long as it reads right at block level who cares LOL

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Hey Charles!

what I meant was they are both pretty much the same thing in that
they're solid state "flash drives".

Yes although some are definetly flashier than others, as well as much more expensive, such as the 3.5" SCSI flash drives which were literally thousands of dollars.

the other is a "Cartridge" with a regular IDE connector.

Ah! Yes I have two of those; a 40 pin ide as well as a 44 pin model that was better I thought since no power cable was needed. The ones I was talking about looked like those except they plugged into a special usb port on the motherboard instead of plugging into an ide interface. The only ones I ever saw advertized for them was made by Intel and never really took off for whatever reason.

Of all the flash disks I have seen thus far the sata ones are the best overall, although I must say the nvme jobbers I am enjoying muchly. The only problem with them is they aren't hotswappable whereas sata ones are. All things considered sata is the way to go.

i have legit keys and isos for OS5.0.7, Xenix

I found a iso for "Tru64 UNIX 5.1B" which is the last official version (2012). Also there is much documentation provided so hopefully this won't be as painful as I am thinking it will be. We'll see.

as long as it reads right at block level who cares

It definetly does what dd is meant to do ... or at least everything I use dd for. However my main boxes still have the dd supplied by coreutils which works just as well for those identical tasks. The thing is that there are choices and that is a good thing <patent pending>.

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Hello Maurice!

15 Oct 2022 03:46, Maurice Kinal wrote to Maurice Kinal:

"ttylinux of the 21st century" thingy

Actually it was called "flash-ttylinux of the 21st century" thingy.

agre to your self again ? :)


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Hey Benny!

agre to your self again ? :)

The few, the proud, the brave ... wellllll maybe not all that proud but definetly few and brave.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

21 Oct 2022 14:56, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

agre to your self again ? :)

The few, the proud, the brave ... wellllll maybe not all that proud
but definetly few and brave.

maybe, atleast i do love german imprints for no reason to follow outside of germany, can't email to t-online.de so fucking what ? :=)

dont need a homepage for using smtp protocols


Regards Benny

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Hey Benny!

can't email to t-online.de so fucking what ?

Why would anyone want to do that?

dont need a homepage for using smtp protocols

Who says that you do? Errrr ... what's a homepage?

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

23 Oct 2022 23:38, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

can't email to t-online.de so fucking what ?

Why would anyone want to do that?

german imprints law, if your mailserver is anon you cant mail german telecom servers

dont need a homepage for using smtp protocols

Who says that you do? Errrr ... what's a homepage?

google .well-known security.txt :)

if your email adress is [email protected] then example.com need your streat address so gernam security can kill you, sadly gdpr is not that important to deutche telecom

i still miss the security.txt since homepages have nothing to do with email, period

rfc 7505 is your frind :=)

until some germans wakes up


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Hey Benny!

german imprints law, if your mailserver is anon you cant mail
german telecom servers

I ran into that problem a couple decades ago with someone at a german university. Their servers wouldn't accept email from anonymous.

google .well-known security.txt :)

Maybe later when I get bored.

until some germans wakes up

Shhhhhhhhhh ... nobody wants that! ;-)

Life is good,
Maurice

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Hello Maurice!

26 Oct 2022 01:41, Maurice Kinal wrote to Benny Pedersen:

german imprints law, if your mailserver is anon you cant mail
german telecom servers

I ran into that problem a couple decades ago with someone at a german university. Their servers wouldn't accept email from anonymous.

so atleast its not new, its just getting worse :/

google .well-known security.txt :)

Maybe later when I get bored.

my point was this is also a homepage, not just smtp, i will have to find if there is something to smtp only, i will defend my gdpr rights

until some germans wakes up

Shhhhhhhhhh ... nobody wants that! ;-)

not so many beers drinked while sleeping :)

admins in t-online.de drink and drive servers at the same time mostly


Regards Benny

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Hey Benny!

not so many beers drinked while sleeping :)
admins in t-online.de drink and drive servers at the same time
mostly

In Munchen steht ein Hofbrauhaus: Eins, zwei, g'suffa!

Life is good,
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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Carol Shenkenberger on Sat Oct 15 2022 02:50 am

Hey Carol!

Lost a shed and fence work due tomorrow.
Not too bad otherwise.

We never got any news from your direction so I was figuring it couldn't have been too bad. Like they say, no news is good news.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Yup, not too bad. Mostly been on work travel a lot. In fact, I was gone shortly after this and got back to 2 dead systems. Grr.

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Hey Carol!

Mostly been on work travel a lot.

I used to do that in a former life ... errrr when I had a life is probably more accurate. :::sigh:::

In fact, I was gone shortly after this and got back to 2 dead
systems. Grr.

Because of the storm? So far things have been okay here :::knock on wood::: and I have yet to lose a system to a storm. I am the usual suspect when it comes to killing systems. :-( Mind you this latest build that I am usaing as we speak, has been working great as of late. I am still able to produce a half-decent system when I put what's left of this old grey matter to the task.

Beats me how much longer it will hold on but I am certainly not complaining ... much. Every day is a bonus in this neck of the woods.

Life is good,
Maurice

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Re: man's most serious activity is play
By: Maurice Kinal to Carol Shenkenberger on Fri Nov 25 2022 10:00 pm

Hey Carol!

Mostly been on work travel a lot.

I used to do that in a former life ... errrr when I had a life is probably m accurate. :::sigh:::

In fact, I was gone shortly after this and got back to 2 dead
systems. Grr.

Because of the storm? So far things have been okay here :::knock on wood::: and I have yet to lose a system to a storm. I am the usual suspect when it comes to killing systems. :-( Mind you this latest build that I am usaing we speak, has been working great as of late. I am still able to produce a half-decent system when I put what's left of this old grey matter to the tas

Beats me how much longer it will hold on but I am certainly not complaining much. Every day is a bonus in this neck of the woods.

Life is good,
Maurice

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The power dropped and Don didn't know what was up. HAHA, he didn't think to mention it so I didn't know until a day from return when someone actually emailed me.

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