Hi All!

Is there a setting in GoldED to enable the *bold* /italic/ and _underline_ views?






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Hi Martin!

17 Oct 20 11:00, you wrote to me:

[snip]

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

Are you sure? We *can* open username.CFG for editing.


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Hi! Rob,

On 10/18/2020 06:17 AM, you wrote to Stas Mishchenkov:

Re: bold italic underline - how?
By: Stas Mishchenkov to August Abolins on Thu Oct 15 2020 10:11 pm

STYLECODES <yes/hide/no> (hide)

I'm curious about the history of these "StyleCodes" supported by
GoldEd+. Anyone know where/when their original inspiration was? GoldEd
and GoldEd+ don't actually support stylized text (just normal CGA color/brightness text attributes), so it seems to me there must have
been some other FidoNet software that actually supported bold/italic/underlined text display using those codes first. Anyone know?

I don't know for certain. But I have to say that the point package called SemPoint for Windows had a really nice mode. It used Windows fonts to portray/display the actual styles on characters in FTN messages, in response to the style codes. It called the mode something like 'rich text'.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi! Rob,

On 10/18/2020 07:33 AM, you wrote:

Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text" feature as you said. It appears to support bold, italic, underline (and combinations of those) using the same syntax as GoldEd but does not mention the inverse style supported in GoldEd (#this#). Still, appears to be the likely impetus.

I had thought to do the same but I don't do Windows enough to whiz out a tester and plug-in to a FTN source. !6-bit... eouch! :)

Yes, it looks like some stirrings of competition. Pity about SemPoint.

Cheers,
Paul.

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Hi Paul!

18 Oct 20 08:14, you wrote to Rob Swindell:

Thanks for the pointer! I installed sempoint v2.26 (16-bit
Windows programs, remember those? That was fun) just so I could
read the help text, and indeed, it describes its "rich text"

[snip]

I had thought to do the same but I don't do Windows enough to whiz out
a tester and plug-in to a FTN source. !6-bit... eouch! :)

Yes, it looks like some stirrings of competition. Pity about
SemPoint.

Sempoint is a fine performer on my XP machine. Pity is more aptly directed to the lack of "16bit" support in recent Windows versions.

I don't think there is any modern equivalent to Sempoint's ability to toss QWK content into Squish message bases, and not be limited to reading and replying to just one QWK file at a time.

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Hello August!

*** Saturday 17.10.20 at 14:34, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

[snip]

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

Are you sure?

Yes :)

We *can* open username.CFG for editing.

I may have worded my original reply badly because I assumed that you
were referring to your personal copy of golded.cfg when you said "username.CFG". The change(s) is/are required to be made to your
personal copy of *golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor
write access to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the
changes.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello August!

*** Saturday 17.10.20 at 16:54, August Abolins wrote to Martin Foster:

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

Are you sure? We *can* open username.CFG for editing.

I opened my username.cfg, and added STYLECODES YES

It did not work. :(

See my previous message.

Regards,
Martin

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Hello Martin!

18 Oct 20, Martin Foster wrote to August Abolins:

Is the change required in the username.CFG file?

Yes it is but only Thomas can do that.

The change(s) is/are required to be made to your personal copy of *golded.cfg*, which we(Points) neither have read nor write access to, that's why I said that only Thomas can make the changes.

What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use golded on a remote machine?

Regards

Kai

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Hello August!

21 Oct 20, August Abolins wrote to Kai Richter:

What kind of setup is that? Do you have a shell login and use
golded on a remote machine?

Veleno offers point access via what appears to be Windows RDP.

Remote DP, your environment is under control of your boss. A special config structure is required to get golded into a multi-user config. I think it works with "include" keywords for easy handling of global and user specific configuration. Depending on the "include" sequence it may be possible that valid keywords are overwritten again. I think your boss is the only one who can help you to get style codes active.

Did anybody said already that the golded stylecodes are just a colorization of the normal text? You don't get bold or underlined text. It's just highlighting the text with a different color.

Regards

Kai

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Hello Rob!

02 Nov 20, Rob Swindell wrote to Paul Quinn:

Okay, no problem. I think it's a cool feature and it'd nice if more
BBS packages and offline readers supported a compatible markup.

What for? I don't _see_ the difference between an underlined and low dash tagged word within ascii universe networks like Fidonet. Basically there is not much need for markups. Look around in typical common media, bold italic and underline markups are used very rarely because there is no significant change of the content - a no is still a no and a _no_ is more no than no - or a dead is more than _dead_ and a _faster_ is still more than fast and much more faster than faster?

The one useful markup for quotes is italic and that function is already covered by the > sign at the beginning of a quoted line.

Regards

Kai

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Hello Paul!

03 Nov 20, Paul Quinn wrote to Rob Swindell:

Further steps will probably require a further integration of Fidonet
into the collection of internets.

?? What steps? That is already done! All you need to do is to upgrade your software and find an access point. You will have full markup support, real bold italic and underline is no problem, you could integrate pictures, audio and video into your postings. Thousands of Boards are waiting for you.

Regards

Kai

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Hi! Kai,

On 04 Nov 2020, Kai Richter said the following...

Yes, that is what I intimated. Have you seen the 'telegrams'?

No. I don't understand telegrams in this context. Intimating fails due to translation. Sorry.

An example for just _one_ echo (of many): Asian-Link (IIRC). Look for
traffic by my friend in the Crimea (initiator of 'telegrams' use) and August Abolins. Telegram traffic is between Fidonet anything and (currently)
SMS-like texting on Android mobiles & tablets.

KR> And uhh, sorry for offtopic. KR>

Yes, there is that too. :)

Cheers,
Paul.

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