Hi Benny!

29 May 2020 20:21, from Benny Pedersen -> Kees van Eeten:

welcome on board, i think about rpi 4 8G now :)

Do you need that amount of memory?
I actually never use more than 2 GB.
I go for 4 GB to be on the safe side, but 8 GB is overkill _for my usecases_ :)

Anyhow it is great that it is available and maybe other people do more memory intensive stuff on their Pis :)

CU, Ricsi

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Good ${greeting_time}, Benny!

29 May 2020 20:24:02, you wrote to me:

gremlin@pi4:~ > rpm -q kernel-{image,modules,dts}-rpi4
kernel-image-rpi4-5.6.14-alt1.aarch64
kernel-modules-rpi4-5.6.14-alt1.aarch64
kernel-dts-rpi4-5.6.14-alt1.noarch

precompiled problems

I really like homebrewed experts... try to guess who compiled this:

gremlin@pi4:~ > rpm -qi kernel-image-rpi4
Name : kernel-image-rpi4
Version : 5.6.14
Release : alt1
Architecture: aarch64
Group : System/Kernel and hardware
Size : 47032832
License : GPLv2
Source RPM : kernel-rpi4-5.6.14-alt1.src.rpm
Build Date : Tue 26 May 2020 19:04:00
Build Host : gremlin.hasher.altlinux.org
Packager : Gremlin from Kremlin <gremlin _@_ altlinux.org>
Vendor : ALT Linux Team
URL : https://www.kernel.org/
Summary : The kernel image itself


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Good ${greeting_time}, Maurice!

31 May 2020 18:39:16, you wrote to me:

Yes, I have two "120Gb" SSDs in a RAID-1 /dev/md0 for the root
FS here.

Are they using the standard usb mass storage or the uas driver?
Last time I checked (raspi3b) the uas driver wasn't working.

USB mass storage works just fine.

Hopefully, upcoming new board (one with 8 Gb RAM) would have
VL817 instead...

I'll keep an eye out for that. Thank you for the heads up. Also I
noticed they plan to put the onboard wifi chip on there. Hopefully
they will also add the connector(s) for external antenna(s). The
Broadcom on the raspi3b was okay but lacked connector(s) which of
course renders it useless for host ap mode given the extremely
limited range. If not then it can be disabled and replaced with a
decent usb one. What a waste.

I prefer to avoid using Broadcom shit, so I run WiFi APs with RT5370.


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Hello Kees!

30 May 2020 12:02, Kees van Eeten wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

I know there are 64bit implementations by other distributions.

microsoft still support 32bit in there 64bit distros, its long time since gentoo dropped 32bit on 64bit diststros


Regards Benny

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Hello Maurice!

31 May 2020 17:28, Maurice Kinal wrote to Alexey Vissarionov:

Me too. Perhaps you might know if the rpi4 can handle the higher
speed SSDs on the usb3 interface? They don't need to be bootable but
if so that might be a bonus to some.

why did you not just look at pi desktop at http://raspberrypi.dk/ and yes i have one of them, you just need a 5V/5A power supply to make it stable, if its only powered by 5V/3A its unstable


Regards Benny

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Hello mark!

30 May 20, mark lewis wrote to Richard Menedetter:

Anyhow it is great that it is available and maybe other people do
more memory intensive stuff on their Pis :)

try using an rPi as a SQL server and you could easily find yourself wanting/needing more than 8Gig of RAM...

May i remind you two what the pi was build for?

As far as i remember it's a low cost plattform for education and was never designed for productive server operation.

More RAM more Power for serving is not the direction of the pi.

Btw, isn't the first step for RAM duplication the downgrade from 64 to 32bit?

;-)

Regards

Kai

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Hello Alexey!

31 May 20, Alexey Vissarionov wrote to Richard Menedetter:

Do you need that amount of memory?

I do. And even more - 32 Gb would be ok for now.

Well, I know that would be something other than Rpi...

I deleted an answer to your "give a fuck for other - i use what i need" mail where i tried to remind you that the pi and you are aiming in different directions.
We can see now that you know that already. The next logical step is simple. You should give a fuck for the pi and use the hardware you really need. ;)

Regards

Kai

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Hallo Benny!

is ther raspberry pi without arm cpus ?

No but there is an Atomic Pi which is an Intel based system; x5-z8350 Atom. That makes it compatible with the standard x86_64 based Linux distributions. Personally I don't care much for it for the same reasons as the rasperry pi's.

sure just PXE boot then :)

No thank you. I can wait until something better comes along. If the raspi4b with 8G ram lost the onboard wifi it would be more attractive to me at this point in time. I'd muuch prefer adding my own wifi that had connectors for external antennas and can handle the kernel's wireless mesh (802.11s).

just remember not to uninstall termux now, this will delete all
your work

Yes I know but thank you for the heads up. At the moment I am still waiting for the bluetooth keyboard which they tell me should arrive today or at least before the end of the week. We'll soon see ... I hope.

it will be a dream machine in the pocket :)

Unless you have very big pockets a 10" tablet won't fit. With my eyesight I require a bigger display to be able to read it. However whatever works on the tablet should work on a smartphone that will fit in a pocket so all is not lost.

the desktop could stay in shell, all i need

I agree ... or as you say +1. :-)

We should be in business very soon.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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Hallo Alexey!

2 MK: I'd rather have PCI-E x4 (or even x1) slot.

Agreed except I have yet to see any pci slots on any raspberry pi. An x4 slot would be needed for nvme ssd's to get the full potential but at least a x1 if msata was used instead. They are a tad faster than regular sata drives given the immediate response. However none of these are an option for raspi's other than through the usb port. Therefore the newer raspi4 with usb3 ports are the more attractive option at this stage of the game ... especially with 8G of ram.

And, anyway, having microSD slot is much better than soldered
eMMC chip.

Neither are a good option.

Het leven is goed,
Maurice

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